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Paul Daugherty
Paul Daugherty has been an Enquirer sports columnist since 1994 and has been chronicling Cincinnati sports since 1988. He has covered almost every major sporting event in America, as well as five Summer Olympics. Along the way, he has been named one of the country's top-5 sports columnists four times, and Ohio columnist of the year on seven different occasions. Last year, he was voted 2nd-best sports columnist in the country, by the Associated Press Sports Editors.

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Saturday, May 10, 2008

Chicken and egg?

We have a running debate between the paper and the "niche'' teams in our market: They say more coverage would mean more interest. We suggest more interest would mean more coverage. It's an unanswerable question. But I will say this:

Last Friday night, the 'Clones drew 2500 for a Game 7 playoff tilt. For this this past Friday, I wrote a Cyclones column, touting the experience of attending a game and asking people to give that night's Game 1 of the conference finals a look. I talked it up on radio, too, having the coach Chuck Weber on twice. (Guy's a sheer delight, by the way.) Plus, Marc Hardin did a story advancing the game.

Attendance doubled Friday night.

Maybe it was the perfect, um, cyclone: Reds out of town, weather lousy, a local pro team actually winning more than it loses. And, oh yeah, dollar beers.

Or maybe it was, partly, the pub. I've never been one to believe I had that much influence on anything around here. I've been telling the Bengals how to run their business for 20 years, made nary a dent. But I don't think the 'Clones attendance bump was coincidental.

Which prompts a question: If we covered the Bengals/Reds less, if we shoved their news to the inside pages, would their attendance suffer and force changes?

I'm not saying that would ever happen, or even that it should. I'm not suggesting that's my call. It's not. But would it have an impact?

Thoughts?


51 Comments:

at 9:28 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, I would like to say "thanks" for the coverage of the Cyclones. I've attended about 15 games this year and it's nice to see the media begin to take notice of this team. I know the Cyclones don't grab the headlines like the Reds and Bengals do. This is a professional sports town, first and foremost. However, I think the casual sports fan in the city is taking notice of the team regardless of the coverage. Here's some numbers from www.echl.com to back up my claim:

In the 2006-07 season, the Cyclones ranked last in the ECHL in attendance. They drew a total of 66,396 fans over 36 home dates, for an average of 1,844 fans per game. This year, they drew 90,832 fans over 36 home dates and aveaged 2,523 fans per game, a nearly 37% increase. My point is the attendance began to grow, albeit slowly, before the media ever really took notice of the team.

I don't know if the media has a huge impact on pro sports attendance but for a minor league franchise, I think any little bit helps.

P.S. The game 7 vs. Reading was on a Monday night, not a Friday and the Reds were playing right next door Vs. the Cubs that night. I guarantee that the crowd would have been bigger had it been a weekend, but I digress....

Again, thank you Mr. Daugherty for your coverage of the Cyclones! Cyclones fans like myself appreciate any and all coverage our team can get.

 
at 9:29 AM Blogger jeff said...

Interest drives coverage. Why else would national media pick up stories about Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan? People want to know.

If you buried Reds/Bengals coverage inside, say like the Enquirer does with NBA, people will go elsewhere for their information.

 
at 9:31 AM Blogger jeff said...

Forgot to mention: Your article is the expection to the rule because you have an opinion column. You can write almost anything you want (within reason). You definitely made your point about winning teams in Cincinnati. But I don't think many people were demanding front page news about the Cyclones. I like going but heck if I can even name a player on the team.

 
at 9:47 AM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

Thats an easy one. It was the $1 beers.
St CSA

 
at 10:08 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it was a combination of several factors: the publicity, $1 beers, and the playoffs--in that order. The publicity is first because without the pub, nobody knows about $1 beers and the playoffs.

Any legit sports fan in this town reads your column, Doc. No question about that. The pub was key.

As for the Reds and Bengals, I don't think you could impact them as much because they are so entrenched and so beloved (yes, beloved) by the fans that there would be a clamor about the lack of coverage and people would turn to the Dayton Daily News and other outlets. The internet has made that competition very real.

 
at 10:11 AM Blogger dawnzy said...

Writing the articles and having the coach on the show all helped in bringing butts to the seats. There was some extreme marketing going on this week. From the sales reps calling those who previously bought tickets (I got two calls myself), articles on Enquirer.com, WCPO.com, local12.com, wlwt.com and fox19.com. Along with, for those who are Myspacers, intense bulletins and emails going out. I've been to about 28 games this season, and just finally started seeing "Marketing" going on. A few people in the seats this weekend (and at Toots in Fields Ertel) didn't even know there was a hockey team until the articles came out. SO keep these blogs a comin, they do get read! See ya in the Kelly Cup Final!!

 
at 10:18 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

RThis is in response to Jeff.... It is a result of the non-coverage that you can't name a player. I wish we had more front page articles because you would have great stories. Theres a kid on the team from Cincinnati who came all the way back from Europe to play for the clones.... We have not only the rookie of the year but the leagues MVP and leading scorer on the team(and thats all the same player)we have the most outstanding coach in the league, and probably the two best goaltenders. We should celebrate players like Deitsch and Desharnais, coaches like Weber... This team is everything we ask for out of the reds and bengals everyday. They have the best offense....the best defense... and a coach that speaks honestly and doesn't make idiodic decisions. Oh yeah and an ownership team that will do whatever it has to in order to cater to US ... the fans.

 
at 10:38 AM Blogger russ said...

It's simple winning brings out fans. In the case of minor league hockey, or high school football it may not be as prevalent everywhere as major league baseball or football. People need to be reminded of those things. With the Reds and Bengals constant reminders of their futility do nothing to motivate fans. It's so much more simple than people want it to be. If you win, they will come. Ask the Bengals. A couple of less than disappointing seasons and they have a waiting list for season tickets. You could try promoting hope but I think fans can decipher that. It seems the attendance is always higher when Volquez is on the mound.

 
at 11:24 AM Blogger Scott Evans said...

Paul,

Its because with the Cyclones the coverage was positive compared to Reds and Bengals coverage which receives more negative press coverage than President Bush and Barak Obama's minsister combined.

As someone who was on the air in a small town, yes your voice on the air is extremely powerful. Look at the trouble Willie has created with Dunn & Griffey in the past when it was clearly fictional exageration on Willie's part (such as his "suspension" casused by Griffey, Adam Dunn playing drunk, etc...). Just as if there are still people who believe pro-wrestling is "real" there are people who listen to those in the media, especially radio to help decide how they will live their lifes and spend their money. Its why Ashlee Judd called WEBN twice to try to get John Kerry elected in 2004, its why Advertisers spend thousand's of dollars on the Big One. So yes positive news will have a dramatic impact on attendance.

To change the attendance of the Reds in a positive direction, positive stories about the Reds would help, of course when you have the worst record in the national league it is hard to be positive in a free press society.

With your talk show you could take ideas on how to change the Reds without becoming a Griffey/Dunn bash fest. What the Reds need is a big winning streak and positive news from tne media.

 
at 11:59 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Reds/Bengals fan base is so big, so faithful and so entrenched, it wouldn't make any difference where you placed them in the paper....even on the obit page (where they belong sometimes).

Besides, there are so many other media sources to get Reds/Bengals news other than the print pages of the Enquirer.

Reds/Bengals attendance will always be primarily a function of how the team is playing and not where the local paper puts their news.

 
at 12:07 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to say I love the fact that the Cyclones are starting to get all of these fans. The only thing is the fact that how many of these "bandwagon" fans will stay?

The coverage is great, i've e-mailed a number of local media sources to get the team any coverage what-so-ever and almost nothing up until now. When the Reds are down and there is only 1 team in the entire city that CAN be a playoff team, it seems like we jump on so quickly.

I am not bashing anyone for coming to the game, I think its great, I went to my first game in 1989 when I was only a couple months old, so i've been a "lifer" on the Cyclones. So I think it would be great to start getting more of these people who come out to 1 maybe 2 games a season and instead of just going for $1 beer night going for the team.

Do not get me wrong, our fan base has grown tremendously, but will it be there next season or will people just kind of blow it off until we get to the playoffs again?

Again, thank you for the media coverage and thank you to everyone that is coming out for the team, they really do appreciate it, I just hope we can see more faces in the crowd next year while gaining new fans as well.

(p.s. Please don't throw stuff on the ice, even if you're drunk, I don't think people realize that the team is at fault for that and it can cost them)

 
at 12:28 PM Blogger ewad said...

Paul,

I made this argument about UC football for years.
Granted they did a lot to earn more fans and coverage on their own... but now that the Enquire actually covers them as more than an afterthought attendence is way up and probably will break all records next year.
It's not the paper's job to promote a product.
But when the paper covers an event, like UC football or in this case clone hockey... it gives it sort of a stamp of approval and legitimacy with the casual fan.

 
at 12:29 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

About the 'clones.... I'd go to a lot more games if they didn't play in the coleseum. Move back to the Garden please!

 
at 1:56 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does publicity drive attendance???

Are you kidding--of course it does.

An analogy: Would you be a talkshow host without the "publicity" of your postition with the Enquirer? No, me thinks you would not--your marketablity is solely due to your status as a columnist, not a talker.

 
at 1:56 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been to just about all the home games this year. Judging from the crowd last night, there were a lot of new faces, who came because of the publicity. I think it's definitely a combination of attendance driving publicity and vice versa, like a DNA molecule wrapping around itself.

I heard lots of comments like "This is great! I'll be back.

 
at 2:29 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's not forget that at one time not long ago, Cincinnati boasted two high-level minor league hockey teams. During that era, when the IHL Cyclones and AHL Ducks played on the same evening, it was not uncommon for the two teams to combine for 8-10,000 in attendance. There is a significant base of hockey fans in this city.

However, since the Cyclones emerged from dormancy for the 2006-07 season, it's been a bit of an "out of sight/out of mind" proposition. Little media coverage and very limited team promotion. That is until the first of this year. The Cyclones dropped tickets to $10 and advertised quite heavily. The weekend attendance average (regular season and playoffs) has been around 5000 per game since that time.

With their impressive post-season run, lower ticket prices and the recently increased media coverage, the Cyclones have a decent chance to make a go of it this time around. While media coverage isn't the only part of the equation for success, it is a vital portion.

I have enjoyed the recent media coverage and hope that is a harbinger of things to come.

 
at 3:47 PM OpenID rauja said...

You bet media coverage drives interest and attendance. If Enqr. were to have dedicated Clones reporter that travelled with team and a lot more sports page coverage you'd see attendance increase dramatically.

For me the best part of Paul D's commentary wasn't about $1 beers nor their come back win over Reading, but the fact that that the Clones' players are fan friendly and don't behave like some 'typical' spoiled professional athletes on Bengals and Reds.

I might even go see a playoff game.

 
at 6:05 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

The crawl to 600 continues.
ST CSA

 
at 6:49 PM Blogger gmirones said...

Paul Daugherty writes at 8:23 AM
“If we covered the Bengals/Reds less, if we shoved their news to the inside pages, would their attendance suffer and force changes? I'm not saying that would ever happen or even that it should. I'm not suggesting that's my call. It's not. But would it have an impact?”
Obviously you missed Business 101 (too many $1 beers) “Build a better mouse trap and the public will be a path to your door” Once you have a marketable product; public comment, discussion and advertising create further interest among possible marginal users of that product. That explains the attendance issue you have brought up.
The coverage of the two professional sports teams should be based on the old adage “What have you done for me lately”. Whatever sells copies is the lead sports story
Treat the Reds and Bengals objectively, as what they are, and what you yourself have identified as flawed and dysfunctional organizations.
The end purpose of the newspaper is to generate revenue for the owners (share holders) of the publication and all opinion articles should be written with that in mind. As you well know newspapers have their own issues. Box scores tell the facts, reporters tell the How, Why, Who When, and What.

 
at 11:21 PM Blogger jeff said...

Anon at 10:18. You're right, I can't name a player on the Cyclones because of the non-coverage. But I also would have no clue who Lindsay Lohan was without all the coverage she gets. BUT Lindsay wouldn't get the coverage she gets unless people wanted it. So the fact that I know who Lindsay is results from other people wanting to hear about her.

Interest drives coverage in this example: Would news stations race to cover high-speed pursuits live if no one tuned in to watch? No. If a news outlet doesn't cover the news that people want to read, hear, or see, they wouldn't be a news outlet much longer. Paul is right, it is the pinacle of the chicken and the egg.

But as for what Paul asked....if the Bengals/Reds weren't covered as extensively as the enquirer does now, people would go else where for the news.

 
at 12:34 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Team ownership believes the free publicity works. Otherwise, they wouldn't let the press in the game for free.

 
at 10:31 AM Blogger M&M said...

Headlines in the paper should call for Brown to step down, or sell the team. See how long it is before the Bengals respond. You shouldn't be telling the Brown family how to run the team but to stop running the team.

 
at 10:38 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wrote you an email last week thanking you for your coverage of the Cyclones. If there is one Cincinnati team that deserves our support it's these guys. Their drive to win and "lay it on the line" attitude is creating about the best sports entertainment this town has to offer. I'll always be a Reds and Bengals fan as well as a season ticket holder. That will never change, but I know that if we a a true sports town, we have plenty of love left for a professional hockey team that does the name "Cincinnati" proud.

This is a special group of players lead by a special coach. Chances are the Cyclones will be back home to finish out this playoff series and will likely have home ice advantage for the Kelly Cup finals in a couple of weeks. If you are a sports fan, you owe it to yourself to watch professional playoff hockey in person. I fell in love with this team the first playoff game I attended. -Dave

 
at 10:53 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the ECHL attendace ALWAYS dwindles in the playoffs. This is due mostly to a lack of promotion of the games because of a schedule that is often up in the air until a week or so before. This gives almost no time for group sales and leaves many marginal fans confused on when the games will be played. This happens with every ECHL team.

For example, a team that averages say...3,000 during the regular season can usually expect that average to drop to around 2,000 for the playoffs. This is due to the short timeline available to promote the games.

THAT SAID, what Cincinnati has done is amazing and I think a lot of it has to do with you, Mr. Daugherty. To average 5,000 fans the last two nights is remarkable. It was an electric atmosphere Friday when I attended.

Local radio, t.v. and newspaper coverage has increased and I believe has resulted in peaked interest in the Cyclones and their winnng ways. Winning+media coverage+affordable tickets= huge attendace boosts! Go 'Clones!

 
at 11:16 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the deal- In the playoffs, corporate tickets are not purchased, while during the regular season you have time to buy and plan for bigger event and promo days because the schedule comes out months in advance. We beat Reading on Monday without even knowing a game time and date for the next series until that night!

Selling 10,000 tickets for 2 games in a 4 and a half day span is remarkable. A lot of this is due to the increased coverage by Paul and other local media outlets.

Yes...increased coverage has definitely helped create more interest and inflated attendance. No doubt they deserve the attention and support.

 
at 11:23 AM Anonymous vermontdad said...

Why shouldn't you drive coverage of the Reds and Bengals to the back pages??? They don't accomplish anything newsworthy. But it'll never happen. The "powers that be" at the Enquirer are tied to closely with the ownership of the so called "major league teams that Cincinnati is saddled with.

 
at 11:34 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you had the slightest clue what you were talking about, you'd have known Game 7 was Monday (all four home openings in the Division Finals were weeknight games) with less than 48-hours notice ahead of time that there would even BE a Game 7, like another commenter said, with a baseball game going on next door.

Don't give yourself too much credit for anything, the Cyclones drew 10,063 for the weekend set vs. South Carolina - not much more than the 8,000ish they drew for the opening playoff tilts vs. Johnstown (not to mention, a 5000 attendance on a Friday night is a very typical occurange since January); so if you want to take credit for the less than 2,000 people difference between the Division SemiFinals and the Conference Finals, congrats, you did very little.

You're an idiot. Get off the bandwagon, you're the kind of person who brought your fellow bandwagon-jumping, $1 beer chugging shmucks into the building Friday night that threw food and beer onto the playing surface at the conclusion of the game that we won 6-2. As a long time fan and supporter, that's an embarrassment to all of us well behaved human beings, and probably the only thing you should be taking credit for.

Go on and continue writing your negative posts/articles about Chad Johnson and the Reds, the consistent underperformers in this town, because we all know how much the media loves to complain about that. We'll stick to winning quietly, without your supposed help.

 
at 12:28 PM Anonymous Kevin said...

The fact being, on weekends since the first of the year the Cyclones have drawn over or about 5,000 for a Friday and Saturday night. Yes on weeknights during the week its been about 2000-3000. That being said, Pauls artical was much needed and it was "icing" on the cake having it on the front page of the sports section. Thank you.
Reds and Bengals get front coverage all the time...Even Bengals in the Spring and Summer and Reds in the winter months. Cincinnati has something special with this hockey team. Winning first and each of these players will be willing to talk to you and sign autographs. 2 players weekly attend a coach's show during the regular season and during this time they will talk and you get to konw their background of hockey and how they got to this point in their career.
Thanks again Paul for the writeups no doubt they helped a little but the 5000 figure is where the attandance has been on weekends this year.

 
at 1:37 PM Anonymous Sean said...

I wanna say something... I'm glad you are covering the Cyclones and promoting them. Its a great way to get people out to the games. Your right in many ways its great to have a winning team in town and this team having a great chance at winning the Kelly Cup. I disagree with however the idea that this article boosted attendance that much. Weekend games attract more fans and so do promotions. One dollar beers with always bring more people down but thats not the case for the true fan who will go specials or not...

The media coverage has been great. I have been going to games for years now and the average person doesnt know the clones are around or when they play. As usual for this town we have many "fair weather fans" who will come to see a winning team. I believe these are all factors...

 
at 8:55 AM Blogger UCFan79 said...

Paul, it appears you're asking if the media has a significant impact. Of course it does.

That's why it should report the truth about sports in the town and stay out of any "understandings" with them.

The 2d best way to ever get decent teams in Cincy is for excellence to be applauded and failure to highlighted.

The best way to get success back in any pro sports town is for the league to decrease league cash by 10% with each losing season.

 
at 11:57 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well now that the media rolled with the $10 per gallon of gas by 2010 story, then it's a sure bet the oil companies will pace their increases on that mark. Media controls EVERYTHING.

 
at 12:37 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reds and Bengals? No. Interest and attendance there is driven by success on the field.

Niche teams, like the Cyclones? Maybe. People don't know much about them, so some good pub could help. But, no amount of pub is going to get any fans (or few) to come back if the product is lousy.

 
at 1:14 PM Blogger ucbearcatfan said...

For years many of the local media it's not their job to be cheerleaders for UC football or to go out of their way to cover them. This came to a head a couple of years ago with the lack of local media attending Big East Football Media Day in Rhode Island.

Yet you now admit that you did just that for the Cyclones, and that it did indeed help with attendance.

UC fans asked for this for years while they were improving and it mostly fell on deaf ears.

Don't get me wrong - coverage is much better, now that UC has "earned" it.

I think a combination of a winning program and appropriate media coverage go hand in hand. Unfortunatley, UC did not see that until the last couple of seasons.

 
at 4:39 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great point "ucbearcatfan". However, I think it may be time to stop thinking of the Cyclones as a "niche" team and more as truly one of Cincinnati's teams. They've been a part of this community for a long time now.

Yes...media coverage peaks interest! However, winning needs to go hand in hand. If the Reds were 10 games over .500 instead of nearly that many under, there would be great crowds at GABP on a nightly basis. This town is starved for a winner!

 
at 5:38 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really, what's the point in covering the Reds or the Bengals? Same story, ALL THE TIME. Reds lose, Bengals lose.. Jr is unhappy, Chad is unhappy. Nobody seems to be happy playing for these two loser teams.

So, we could open up the paper 10 years from now, and read the same thing.

Heck, might as well cover the local bowling team that wins, or better yet, a soccer team in the area that plays together and wins together.

Lets face it, the Reds and the Bengals have become old news. Judging by attendance and ratings, nobody cares about them anymore. Turn out the lights, cause the party is over.

 
at 7:25 PM Anonymous Kilroy said...

Did that Scott guy say wrestling isn't real?

 
at 9:53 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scott Evans said... "What the Reds need is a big winning streak and positive news from the media."

That's brilliant! How 'bout it, Doc? If the Reds go on a "big winning streak" (giggle), will you promise to tap your magic keyboard and conjure up some positive news? What would constitute a "big winning streak" for this team anyway? Good grief.

Jason
Milford

 
at 11:17 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul, I think what you said rings more true than most Cyclones fans want to realize. It is a perfect storm. The fact that the team has been winning at an incredible pace, the fact that this team basically put their tickets at half the price in January, the fact that there is either dollar beers or dollar hot dogs at almost every game since January and the fact that there has been increased press coverage, has led to increased attendance. Nothing wrong with that, if the storm continues.

But what happens next year if the perfect storm doesn't happen with ALL the above. Don't kid yourself minor league hockey fans, it is a niche sport. If the team did all these great promotions and played so well all year, how bad must the attendance have been at the beginning of the season, to only average 2500 a game this season? I have no idea, because I didn't see one lick of coverage. There was probably no coverage because no one cared about the niche sport until the perfect storm hit.

The fortunes and successes of low level minor league sports changes significantly every year. I would lay good money the Cyclones bandwagon is nothing more than an anomaly. Sorry to rain on your parade hockey fans, but best of luck to the team. A winner in this town would be nice.

 
at 4:28 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

This blog must have been hijacked by John Kiesewetter.
St CSA

 
at 6:06 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I haven't been to the Dayton Daily in a long while but just recently realized those guys are eating the Enquirers lunch if you judge by the number (and quality) of the posts in their sports blogs.
(I say "quality" because I don't see any race baiting and the eager fish who jump at the bait there.)
Also, today is Tuesday and Doc...Doc?...you on vacation?

 
at 11:20 PM Blogger Jeff said...

Paul – Listened to you tonight. Good win and bad loss for the Reds. Keppinger being out will hurt this team.

You made a comment that you’re not sure if the Volquez for Hamilton trade helped either team since both teams’ records were similar to their records from last year. So team records after 40 games is a good indicator of off-season player moves? I’m pretty sure we won’t know how this trade really worked out for both sides for a few more years.

I assume that you made this comment to encourage discussions for your show. If not, why would you try to make this assessment so early into the season. I’d like to believe you have a better understanding of the game than this.

 
at 11:30 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul:

I would love to see you break out more often from the Reds/Bengals cycle and write about other local sports and teams. What about soccer and the Cincinnati Kings (or the Columbus Crew)? I imagine that an article or two from you would similarly impact attendance and interest.

AJ

 
at 5:11 PM Blogger Joseph said...

Minor league hockey shot itself in the foot around here when the Cyclones went to the Coliseum. I don't really know the circumstances surrounding that move -- did the Cyclones want to leave, or did the people who run the Gardens drive them out to bring in an AHL team? -- but it was the worst thing that could have possibly happened.

The Cyclones were drawing lots of fans and getting some press when they were at the Gardens. My dad and I went to upwards of 20 games every season. We hate the Coliseum, though. I think a lot of fans felt the same way and weren't willing to follow the team downtown. Once there were two teams in town, well, we all saw that there wasn't enough interest to buoy both. In the end, one left for a little while, one left for good, and interest in the former hasn't recovered.

I do think one major factor is often overlooked when we recall the glory days of Cyclones hockey. Hockey in general was experiencing a huge boom in popularity in the early and mid-90s. The NHL returned to ESPN in 1992-1993 after a five year absence, Gretzky and the Kings made a run at the championship that year, Gretzky broke Gordie Howe's career NHL goals record the next year, the league expanded by three teams... I could go on. The point is, the NHL was providing some serious coattails to minor league teams. When the Cyclones returned after their hiatus in 2006, they had no such help from the bigs.

Doc, thanks for tolerating the excessive length if you publish this.

 
at 10:47 AM Blogger UCFan79 said...

Paul,

Any ballplayer who thinks a locker room is private space is out of his mind. Privacy suggest either being alone or being in a setting that always includes only those you totally trust.

Blowup dolls are a stupid idea in the first place, but such an idea in a semi-public place is ignoring realities. Ignoring realities also goes by the name: ignorant.

 
at 11:28 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Skyline Chili ran more ads don't you think they'd sell more coneys? More air time = More ad time. Most people probably didn't even realize they were playing.

And without a doubt the $1 beers helped. If the Reds had $1 beers they're attendance would double also.

 
at 12:29 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Long-time reader/lurker, first-time poster.

I’ve appreciated your work on the Reds the last several years. I can well imagine the difficulties of being a beat writer for this team and the pressures on journalists to do more and more work (like managing this blog) as the nature of the media changes. I’m not sure how you do it and I don’t think the average reader understands what you have to do and the number of hats you have to wear.

I’ve read the blog over the last year and I’ve found it quite enjoyable. Some of the comments have been most informative. Long ago I have moved from the Cincinnati area and there is little chance of me ever going to game at GABP. Still, I think I can be a “fan” (despite some poster’s objections) without attending the games. Your blog and some of the postings give me a much better sense of what this team is about.

I shall stay true to your rules of posting and not attack or mention other posters by name. However, I’ve found some of the most entertainment in your blog by reading the comments of the two main trolls and the frustrated responses of other posters in a pointless debate. As a practicing psychiatrist I can easily diagnose the likely problems of these trolls: insecurity in their jobs, home lives, or personal lives. The blog becomes the one place where they can achieve some sense of security, power, and recognition (even if ill deserved). Trolls usually inflate their own identity on blogs and suddenly have “sources” on the team and other supposed privileged access. The two main trolls are not likely one person—their grammar, syntax, and postings indicate two individuals. A more likely scenario for the postings that are close in time is that they both work in the same cubicle at a telemarketing firm and share access to the same computer where sometimes one forgets to log out of blogger and posts under the wrong identity.

For those who are angry at the trolls they should remember the #1 rule of blogging: do not feed the trolls. The trolls’ insecurity in their own lives and lack of attention makes them spout out every few posts the names “Cantu” or “Hamilton.” Surely enough, anti-trolls come running to attack the trolls, only feeding the egos of the original posters as just one posting could elicit as many as thirty comments.

My favorite postings of the trolls were when the trolls wanted to meet up with you at a game or lunch. This came after weeks of disagreeable postings that only confirmed the trolls were not especially nice or convivial people but instead were barstool cynics. I can only imagine the private conversations you may have had with Hal McCoy or C. Trent Rosecrans about such posters. My second favorite postings were when the trolls volunteered to take over your blog. That certainly showed symptoms that were nearly delusional, as if a professional such as yourself needed “help.”

Anyway, I shall continue to read your articles and blog postings with interest. Thanks again.

Carla

12:11 PM

 
at 6:17 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Carla, Interesting post. I think you're being a little hard on those guys/girls but probably pretty close to the truth.

The sad part is .... doubt that they will recognize themselves in your post. They seem to be quite certain of their superior wit & intelligence.

 
at 7:55 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apologies to Paul Dockerty and the other posters for the length of my previous post. This blog has many informative and thoughtful posters such as JF, peabrain michael, arden dulou, jerbear, donkydizzle, KFM, dr robdicken, little richie rich, zippy, runny nose Smokey, sabr_blogger, mr. redlegs, and, of course, mental midget, to name a few.

Baseball query for those posters who have watched Ken Griffey Jr. since the start of last season. How noticeable has the decline been in his physical abilities since Spring 2007? Is his current condition akin to that of NFL running backs once they hit 32 years of age?

I'm disappointed the game was postponed this evening. Nurse Ratched and I had planned to listen to Marty on WLW/700 tonight.

Dr Carla

 
at 11:16 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carla - Nice rambling post about trolls. Most psychiatrists would refer to this as "projection".

 
at 9:41 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most Drs I met, actually all know how to spell. Dockerty?
Hope the good Dr pays more attention to what her patients say that the attention she pays to what she reads.

Robert Young
Milford

 
at 11:41 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul I owe an apology to you and your readers for my last post. After writing last wek that a little civilty never hurt anyone I was wrong to blame the Dr for not checking spelling.

Robert Young
Milford

 
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