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Paul Daugherty
Paul Daugherty has been an Enquirer sports columnist since 1994 and has been chronicling Cincinnati sports since 1988. He has covered almost every major sporting event in America, as well as five Summer Olympics. Along the way, he has been named one of the country's top-5 sports columnists four times, and Ohio columnist of the year on seven different occasions. Last year, he was voted 2nd-best sports columnist in the country, by the Associated Press Sports Editors.

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Wednesday, May 07, 2008

Let me see if I have this straight

The USA Today piece on Ken Griffey Jr. was, in Junior's way of thinking, not that big a deal, and certainly not worth the attention it received in the home clubhouse yesterday afternoon. Apparently, it was just coincidence that a national newspaper had a guy in Atlanta for the weekend just, you know, hanging around hoping it'd be OK with Junior if he wrote a big piece about, among other things, the Reds' RF's desire to return to Seattle.

It was also happenstance that the writer has been a frequent and favored Junior chronicler for years.

And really, you know, there is nothing new, because #3 said the same stuff in Seattle last year. The fact that he's coming up on an option year that the Reds most surely won't exercise is simply coincidental.

And what Junior meant when he said he wanted to return to Seattle was he wanted to retire the way Emmitt Smith did with the Cowboys.

Right.

Look, I have as much respect as anyone for how Junior has conducted himself his entire career. When he hits 600, we should all feel very good about it. Unlike Sammy and Bonds, it will be an occasion to celebrate.

But don't insult my intelligence on this one. The interview in Atlanta was not happenstance. The desire to exit stage right is real. The notion he'd like to win a championship here is, well, a little transparent. If you're a veteran star looked to for leadership, or at least looked to by younger players because of your achievements, maybe you don't go national with this sort of information when your team is in the tank.

That said, as I wrote in the Enquirer this morning, there really is nothing else to be gained from the Reds-Junior partnership, except maybe a few more tickets sold for the prospect of 600 homeruns. And even that benefit is dubious, given how little the club has marketed the achievement and how faint the interest in it is among Reds fans.


43 Comments:

at 10:50 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is it that when you write your articles and blog postings, you are able to verbalize exactly what I, as a fan, am thinking? With insight and humor to boot?

You do a great job Paul. The Enquirer should be glad to have you because, for the life of me, I can't figure out why you aren't writing on a larger stage somewhere.

 
at 11:26 AM Blogger matty buckets said...

Jr. had his chances. The 1997 Mariners team comes to mind. There were three hall of famers on that team. The 2008 Mariners will be fortunate to win 80 games.

Jr. will probably end up like Karl Malone. Like Jr., Malone was a great player who wanted a title so bad he spent the last year of his career with the Lakers just to get on a championship team. Jr. may go to Seattle for 2008 but will try to latch on with the Tigers or Yankees with the same goal in 2009. It didn't work out for Malone and I suspect it won't work for Jr.

 
at 11:29 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont insult your intelligence? Dont insult ours by acting like you and other hacks in this city havent play the "trade Griffey jr. card" just to get phone calls. I can only imagine the outrage had Junior had the same problems of Josh hamilton. I can only imah=gine the outrage had Junior been banned from baseball for betting on the game. But all the guy does is be a "family man" and a guy that doesn't say a whole lot and all he gets from the media and fans in this town is a bunch of crap. I hate baseball, the Reds and i hate the way certain athletes get treated in this town as opposed to cetain athletes who always seem to get the "good old boys free pass". This is the reason me and many of my freinds no longer pay attention to baseball. We are frickn sick of it. You can have all the RBI programs you want. It started with Frank Robinson,thru Eric davis along with barry larkin and now griffey jr. ironically, all the players mentioed before never got suspended 8 times for smoking crack, none were banned from baseball for betting on the game, none were arrested for dui like Ryan Freel but yet they still get crap from the majority white citizens in this town. Screw the REDS, I AM THROUGH WITH YOU AND YOUR GAME. Go bless Griffey jr. you deserve alot better thean the fans and media in Cincinnati. Ask barry larkin, Eric davis , frank robinson and tony Perez.

 
at 11:31 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The white media has once again provebn that black star athletes just dont work in conservitive white Cincinnati with a media that is jsut as white and conservitive. What a shame, i thought this was 2008. Now i know why blacks prefer basketball and football ver baseball........duh

william
Avondale

 
at 11:50 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a stupid slow game!!!! Get a grip people!! Who cares what Mr. Griffy does. He should do whatever is best for him and his family. Anyone who does not try to do that is a loser.

 
at 11:52 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

.....and Chris Henry, Stanley Wilson, O'dell Thurman, Louis Billips none of these gentlemen where ever given chances in Cincinnati. Maybe when Griffey leaves, you can go with him.

 
at 11:59 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul, it really doesn't matter to me how it happens as long as it does. Both sides benefit from Griffey going back to Seattle. To your point yesterday, the Reds pretty much lied to Griffey to get him here - they haven't surrounded him with talent necessary to win. He's a stand up guy, on and off the field, that we should let him choose how he rides off in the sunset.

Anyway, how many runs a year do you think it costs the Reds to have such slow players in the corner outfield positions?

 
at 12:00 PM Blogger Unknown said...

Paul, Ken Griffey is a great baseball player. Among the greatest who has ever played here. Sadly, it's been during an era when the Reds were mediocre. And mediocrity becomes an illness when one gets comfortable with it.

That's why there's such rage directed toward the Reds. The Reds have always been one of baseball's premier teams, and this fan base remembers some great glory years for their team.

I don't understand the racial stuff about the Reds. To be honest with you, the only times I've ever thought about race was during an interview when language became an issue....and language is only peripherally related to race, isn't it?

In any case, I'm a great admirer of Ken Griffey, Jr. I hope he does get to go to the AL to be a DH. I hope it gives him 10 more years of injury free playing time.

Maybe we'll get a steroid-free home run record. It'll still be an asterisk because of the DH rule, but at least it'll be an honorable asterisk.

 
at 12:03 PM Blogger Unknown said...

The sports fans in this town are the most fickle in the entire country. We're winning, everything is amazing. We're the ra-ra, "look at us" bandwagoners that no one else can be. But as soon as the record dips below the .500 line, all the sudden we start shaking our heads and wishing for the next season.

Griffey didn't have to come here. The Mariners could have sent him anywhere they wanted and gotten a good deal. It was Griffey making a decision that would make him happy, his family happy, and not that it wasn't in the back of his mind, that it would make great story lines. Play where dad played. Suiting up in the same clubhouse he ran around in as a kid.

But he's not "The Kid" anymore. With as many injuries (both from playing and personally caused) it's amazing he's still playing now. Many more have had much less happen to them and retired. The man plays because he's loves the game. He took less money because he loves the game. Like Doc said, he also did it the right way.

But instead of being angry that we never went to the big time with Jr., we need to be celebrating him while we can. Because for a short period of time, he was ours and while it was convenient for us, we loved him.

As for those anonymous guys, really? We have to bring race into this? Can't it just be about a guy who came home to play ball for the love of the game and now after 9 years of not getting a ring, he just wants to go somewhere else and try it out. Some guys bounce around forever, ask Mo Vaughn or Dimitri Young. But others stay forever. The one guy mentioned Barry Larkin. Barry got lucky, he walked in and 4 years later they won the Big One. Griffey didn't get that. And yeah, Barry left on bad terms, and Perez and Davis weren't exactly happy either. But who is when they know it's over with them and a team. But they all got a ring. Griffey still doesn't have one. Griffey is baseball's Dan Marino. He doesn't want to go out like that. So please don't make it a race issue when you know it's not. It's just a guy who wants to win so bad, he has to give up being at home where many said he belongs.

 
at 12:15 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's refreshing that Junior has never conducted himself like that Bengals player who wears 85. Junior is a CLASS ACT all around. As much as I'd like to see him stay in Cincy, I completely understand if he wants traded or if the team decides to trade him.

- Big Junior fan in Fort Wayne.

 
at 12:42 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Griffy is for Griffy and since this team (last 15 or so) don't have a prayer of winning more gsmes than they lose, he should be able to pursue his destiny any where he chooses after his contract expires with no hard feelings. Unfortunately he has not been a leader and inspiration to the other players so let him go in peace.

 
at 12:50 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

Don't let the door hit you in the @$$ Mr Griffey. This guy couldn't care less about the Reds winning. The only thing he cares about is his personal stats, cashing his paycheck and getting home (out of Cincinnati). So why the hell should I, or anyone else in this town for that matter, care about his crawl to 600?
St CSA

 
at 12:55 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Reds are in such sorry shape, the Big Red Machine could return and it would be a failing season.

So what if Griffey goes? This team is sad, sad sad. Griffey had success in Seattle, then he came to Cincinnati and all he did was complain, complain, complain!

The Reds and the Bengals are just pathetic! Thank god for College Basketball in this town, and for the youngsters who play little league baseball, football, basketball and soccer.

The Reds have no clue how to operate a successful club. The Big Red Machine couldn't save this team! Call 911 and stick a fork in them, cause they are done!!

 
at 1:23 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Griffey isn't just for Griffey. He's a quiet guy who has persued and even attained excellence in his career. He came here with a discount price because he saw a team that was having fun in his hometown (Remember those early Sean Casey years!). The team he and ownership imagined never materialized and he had injuries. Unfortunately, he's too expensive for the Reds and they are once again in a rebuilding phase.
I wish him luck and thank him for his years here. (My son's coach may disagree seeing as how my son uses the Ken Griffey swing and it only works for the Griff.)

 
at 2:20 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Anonymous 12:55...what did Junior complain about? I certainly don't remember him complaining about anything. He could have complained the team failed to aquire enough pitching for them to win, or that they did some idiotic things like batting Dunn leadoff, but I don't recall him ever doing that. Face it, you and the Griffey Bashers can't stand that he's been nothing but a stand up citizen and resort to making up bad things to say about him.

And to those of you who say he doesn't hustle, try having your hamstring torn completely away from the bone and then have it surgically repaired with what, 3 titanium screws? I wonder how well you would run. Seriously.

 
at 2:37 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey paul a very good friend of mine told me that edison is going to win atleast 20 games and strike out atleast 200 hitters. Is he insane?

 
at 2:45 PM Blogger Blue Moon said...

Maybe we can trade Junior for another center fielder! The roster is so unbalanced now, one more bonehead roster move isn't going to be noticed.

I agree that Griffey and Dunn are both gone by next season. I think they're actually going to blow it all up this year and start over. At least we'll expect them to be out of the race by May 1 next year.

 
at 3:06 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

William makes me laugh. His conspiracy theory and his sPelLchEcK are both equally coherent. I thought this was 2008?

 
at 3:35 PM Blogger ChicagoRed said...

Doc --

Don’t disagree with you, but whether Griffey is being disingenuous or not just doesn’t matter to me that much.

A poster nailed it a couple days ago – the Reds are just boring (today’s game being the exception). How they’ve played this year is how they played for much of last year, which is how they have played for the last 8 years – just boring. Who is the last player they’ve had who fans felt you couldn’t turn away from the TV for fear you might miss something? The last team we had like that was nine seasons ago. (Ironically, during the last couple months of last year, when they out of contention, Hopper and Kepp were batting 1-2 providing some excitement - bunting, stealing, moving runners over, disrupting the opponent….and then back to the same old this year.)

Griffey, at this point of his career, is a part of that. As you said, the injuries are not his fault, but neither are the fans to be blamed for not fully appreciating his career, since the greatness of his career happened almost entirely before he got here. Since being in Cincinnati he has at best put up very good numbers, but never superstar numbers. In Seattle he was a superstar the entire time, maybe the best in baseball. Yes, he has been one of the best to ever play the game, and should be celebrated for that. But this team now is not the right context for that. Another team might be, and Seattle has shown it clearly would be -- so best for all sides to make that happen.

 
at 4:35 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey william from avondale, as well as the other idiots that are playing the race card...get over the pity party for the oppressed. Chris Henry?? Odell Thurman??? not given a chance??? Please. You racists are what really gives this city a bad name. Let me guess....all of your life's misfortunes (just like Henry and Wilsons and Thurmans) are the fault of everybody but themselves. You are a joke.

 
at 6:06 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Griffey needs to go to Seattle. It truly is best for both parties. Get a young outfielder or preferably, whichever stud catcher they dont want, I suspect theyll want Clement. Paul, lots of discussion on blogs.talk shows about Corey Patterson. Why is he playing, why is he batting lead-off and why did he get 3.5 million. Can you ask Dusty and write about this issue? It is central to the baggage of Dusty....namely, clinging to "his guys" and defying the sabremetricians( and common baseball sense) for his agenda. WHo is responsible for Patterson's contract. Was this Dusty looking out for "his guy". This is a legitimate question.

 
at 6:39 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like Junior, I think he's a class act. The bottom line is this. If one were to base Griffey's career on the numbers he's put up since becoming a Red, he would not be remotely considered for the HOF and his salary would be about a third of what it is today. As a Red only, look at the numbers!

 
at 7:55 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul, listening to you on the radio for a half hour tonight I observed you repeatedly speaking of Jr's career in Cincy as if it were already over, yet no websites are confirming a deal........ is this just you running your mouth or do you know something no one else does????? Spill it if you do, quit with the "was" in regards to his career here crap.

 
at 9:05 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's time for a change for everybody concerned. Junior has been able to play with the team he grew up with and his dad played for; that's all well and good. Hopefully he can now return to the city where he saved baseball and was the key to getting beautiful Safeco Field built. Then too the AL gives him the opportunity to perhaps eventually DL with the Yankees, Angels or RedSox and get a WS ring. For us, it's time for big changes with the Reds.

 
at 10:07 PM Blogger Scott Evans said...

Paul,

Do you ever goto the "radio" message boards to see how radio people/geeks judge your performance? Only reason I ask is that sometimes writers such as yourself are overly critical of players, sometimes justified, mostly unjustified, at least in the severity. In this case I'd take Griffey at his word in what he said yesterday with Seg, that he wants to win in Cincinnati and that he will give it his best to accomplish that. Two weeks ago he said something else about how he expects his son to give it his all and that there is no excuse for not doing so. Griffey has been unfairly critisized since he got here by fans that have the intelligence of a rosin bag. Griffey has done well as a Red despite his injuries. The Reds have failed him, period and the vocal fans and sports talk hosts, especially the ones on Homer, have embarrased themselves.

My advice to Jay Bruce, Votto, Cueto, and Volquez, don't fall in love with this city because the media and fans will turn on you as soon as you go 0-4 and the team goes south. Just ask Griffey, Dunn, Arroyo, Larkin, E. Davis, etc.

By the way Paul you are currently the second best sports talk host in the market behind Seg.

 
at 12:03 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone does need to admit that race could very well play a part in some of the rhetoric and thinking towards our sports figures. I myself am white, yet have seen over my lifetime of watching Cincinnati sports, and reading of the history of our franchises, many instances of one-sidedness in our town. Good ole' Pete, God Bless him, probably helped Janzsen push 'roids, bet on baseball, yet gets a free pass. On the other hand, Frank Robinson was just a few years ago reembraced by Cincy fans, who for many years thought him a bigot, whiner, and lazy. Eric Davis and Mario Soto come to mind also as players criticized the entire length of their career here, yet are suddenly now the pride of the Reds past. Disgracefully fire Tony Perez, but, hey, lets invite him back to retire his number like all is good. We disregard Freel's DUI, but hammer Thurman for doing drugs. Heck, we have made Huggins a god in this town, but shoot down Drew Lavender for having pot on him. We refuse to give Griffey Sr. an opportunity to manage, then hire a bum like Bob Boone. See the pattern? Sadly, Jr's situation has become like the rest. The town criticizes him, blasts him, but, hey, ten years from now, we'll invite him back, retire a number, and tell him we loved him. Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth, Cincinnati.

Jim Sprague
Fort Lewis, WA

 
at 4:15 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the one anonymous guy who obviously is black and upset about us white folk always "picking" on the black athletes and not the white ones...YOU sir, are the REAL racist one! You seem to not have paid attention to the appreciation this town pays to Joe Morgan everytime he comes to town. When they put him on the Jumbotron, he ALWAYS receives a nice ovation. Same with Tony Perez, who besides Pete Rose, is probably the most loved Red of all time! I dont care if you are black or white, or asian or whatever....if you dont hustle in this town, and appear like you dont care, then you will be talked about. The fans, for the most part, do like Jr., but he has a knack with his attitude and lack of hustle down the 1st baseline, to appear lazy, or doesnt care.

 
at 4:28 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few weeks back, I decided to take my son to a game against the Brewers. It was a beautiful Spring day, and being a Friday I wouldn't have to worry about staying out late. All afternoon at work I was daydreaming about how it would be a perfect evening at the ballpark!

I used the online ticket option for the first time, and it worked great. In a weak moment, I even went for the $cout $eats right behind the plate! Hey, this was going to be a classic father/son bonding session that my son would remember for a lifetime!

So the whole time I'm explaining to number one son to keep an eye on Jr because he is possibly the greatest player currently active in baseball.

Well, you know what is coming...Jr his a slow roller which easily could have been an infield hit, but of course #3 merely jogged to first base and at that was just barely out.

Jr, it is one thing to not put your heart into playing the game, but when you make me look bad in front of my son, well I'm sure I'll go to see you play again sometime, but not any time soon!

 
at 8:08 AM Blogger Another losing season said...

Anyone who thinks the Cincinnati media is a ravenous bunch hell bent on making player's miserable hasn't lived anywhere else.

 
at 8:25 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Anon 4:19 had a good point. In Cincinnati, it is about the hustle. The fact that Jr had to be called into the manager's office (his new manager by the way) during spring training this year and be told to act like he gave a crap says a lot. He is a veteran. That shouldn't happen. If you don't want to be a captain fine but as a veteran you need to lead by example. Jr. has failed to do that during his Cincinnati tenure.

 
at 10:26 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is soo funny when people bring race into the equation. Oh yeah, Griffey isn't liked because he is black. What a bunch of bull!

I believe we supported the Big Red Machine in Cincinnati..and remember the black players, Griffey Sr, Morgan, Geronimo, Foster! So that arguement is WEAK at best!

For those who want to still toss around the race card, GET OVER IT!

Maybe the reason Griffey Jr hasn't been supported, is because he makes more money in one season, than most people will see in a lifetime! And when you make that much dough, maybe you should play a little harder and help the team!

This is 2008 people, not 1968. Leave race to the presidential candidates!

 
at 10:31 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bloggers comparing how black players are treated by fans vs. white players - please, stop it already! You are not only insulting local sports fans' intelligence, but showing your low I.Q. as well. Cincinnati sports fans are like the rest of the Midwest - blue collar work ethic. We are not New York or L.A., which are "glam" cities. We admire an athlete with "limited" natural power scrapes out and claws his way to success (Pete Rose, Chris Sabo, Ryan Freel come to mind). The racist part is hard to swallow. Joe Morgan, Eric Davis,
Barry Larkin, Frank Robinson, Vada Pinson, Oscar Robertson, et al. were all admired by Cincinnati sports fans as well. Don't confuse how the players are "treated" by fans with personnel decisions made by pro sports teams. Some fans were frustrated by Junior Griffey's injuries since he got here because they wanted SO BADLY for him to play the way he did in Seattle so the Reds could compete.
Many fans would like to see Jr. stay here. White players get their share of criticsm also. (Danny Graves being heckled after blowing saves until he showed the finger, whereupon he was released, for example. Please, for the love of God, leave the "race card" out of the discussion - it's getting really, really old. I guess when Chad Johnson is gone, bloggers will write that he also "wasn't given a chance" here. Please, stop it already.

 
at 10:32 AM Blogger Anonymous said...

Wow, as much as we love our teams (or not, anon 11:29) we sure hate each other. I discover something about myself everytime I come to this blog. I am the worste fan in the world (?), I am a racist (?), I cant spell (well thats true), I ride the bandwagon (?), I am backwoods (?), I am a conservative redneck (?), and I ran all of the talent out of this town due to my extreme jellousy (?)... All of this apperently happens when you root for the player that improves his situation (josh hamilton [god knows all of us backwoods, good ole boys, folks are hating this edison volques guy]) instead of the players that repeatedly prove themselves idiots (henry, chad [not all idiots comit legal crimes]). So before you respond to anything i say with that hate full, snide, uneducated (or improper), trifling, attitude that made you who you are, understand this...





Carson Palmer will be MVP (just sayin)

Mike from... i dont even know anymore

 
at 10:39 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Junior wants to return to Seattle, and the Reds can get a proven pitcher or couple of really good prospecs (ie., Volquez and Cueto) then the deal should be made so that Griff can get what he wants and Reds get what they need -mutually beneficial.
There shouldn't be any hard feelings on either side. Reds fans have gotten to see a hometown Hall of Famer for 8 years, Griff played with pain, he suffered some injuries but wasn't able to experience a championship here. Reds and Griffey should part ways amicably.

 
at 10:58 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

During the past two years fans have called into talk shows and written / blogged letters wanting to get rid of Mike Stanton, David Ross, Bronson Arroyo, Scott Hatteberg and Adam Dunn, as well as many other white players. Criticism from fans has nothing to do with race. It has to do with production. Either you are perceived as "helping" the team or "hurting" it. Cincinnati sports fans want to win. If you're not helping the team win, and you get criticized, what is wrong with that? Whenever the Big Red Machine is mentioned, Morgan and Perez get mentioned just as much as Rose and Bench. Give the race card a rest.

 
at 11:01 AM Blogger Mr. Rawlings said...

Junior is the polar opposite of Sean Casey. Griffey's absence at GABP signing autographs and throughtout the Cincinnati area is a sharp contrast to what casey did when he was here. We are sure Griffey has done wonderful things for charity etc. It has been said he would rather stay in the background and not be bothered. problem is..he is a celebrity. He doesn't like to talk to the media UNLESS it is at his convience and he has a statement. He truly dislikes most sports reporters because when they try and do thier jobs..he feels imposed upon. Fact..his lack of availability to the media and to the community has lead only to appearances at the game and that's about it. This personna had created nothing but pure apathy, thus the reason most fans couldn't care less if he want to go to Seattle or gets #600 here or at Safeco Park. It's like Paul said...it's very apparent that Bob Nightengale's appearance in Atlanta was with a purpose and Junior revealed his thoughts, not to mention like Paul also said...the ships sinking..and the Captain wants to jump ship now! As long is there is a thing called celebrity..fans of every type will want to be close to thier heroes, know all about them, be where they are ..&simply enjoy what they do best. Celebrities & Super stars like Griifey don't have that luxury to become an island unto themselves. It simply goes with the territory. Had be been more of a "people person" and " more fan friendly"...the apathy and dislike probably would not been existent.

 
at 11:40 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Reds suck and people act like it started when Ken Griffey Junior came to town, IT STARTED IN 1991 AND THEY HAD ONE GOOD YEAR IN 1995 AND 1999 DOESN'T COUNT! THE FANS HERE ARE IDIOTS, ADAM DUNN SHOULD BE THE ONE TRADED FOR SURE, NOT JUNIOR!
-TONY

 
at 12:18 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Jim Sprague for pointing out what many of us dont want to believe. as an African american i have been turned off by the game of baseball and the Reds since the marge schott comments. My father told me about the treatment of Frank Robinson but i didn't experience it personally. I was around for eric davis and barry larkin and the treatment they recieved as compared to white players with drug and alcohol problems deeply distrubed me. With that said i can not in good conscience take my children or spend my hard earned money for a product and a media who treats players differently because of their race. I have nothing against Josh hamilton or ryan freel but Barry larkin, eric davis and Ken griffey jr. didn't deserve the type of treatment they recieved from fans and media. A friend of mine (who is white) told me he went to a game this year and said i wouldn't believe the racial slurs and garbage said to Giffey jr. That my friends is why myself and other blacks nolonger enjoy the game of baseball.

james Dickson
cininnati ohio (Avondale)

 
at 1:50 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul,

Thank you for your insight and commentary. I find it hard to believe that people (William-avondale) want to make the Griffey issue a race issue. Wow, maybe it is a performance issue, not just Griff but the whole team. The Reds have let fans down all across the race spectrum. Continous losing seasons give even the most ardent of Reds fans reasons to question what is going on! I don't even desire a World Championship now, lets shoot for the optimism that it could be possible because today it is not. We are the Cincinnati Reds and that is hard to believe.

 
at 2:25 PM Blogger ewad said...

Look truth is neither of our two veteran marquee players... Griffey and Dunn are leaders.
Why do we keep beating them up, we know what they are.
Its not their fault the Reds have way too much invested in them.

 
at 2:25 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm past frustration, anger, and embarrassment with sports. I'm just hopeless,emotionless, and getting closer and closer to not caring at all anymore.

This blog I read everyday is becoming more and more meaningless to me as the ability translate my thoughts into words dwindles with every sports season in this city I call home.

I'm not afraid to admit it, I look at Boston sports blogs sometimes, so what? Just to feel what it's like, ya know? It's not supposed to be this way.

I'm not jacked about 600 because I thought it'd be 700 by now. Jr was supposed to be the solution, Reds savior, my savior. It wasn't supposed to happen this way.

Kenyon wasn't supposed to break his leg.

Oj, Bill, and Beasley were supposed to win the Big East w/ Huggs.

"In Marvin we trust" was going to mean fundamentals/discipline.

Chad acts like T.O. now, and T.O. gets his act together.

Pete was supposed to be in the hall by now.

There was supposed to be something between the two stadiums.

Quite possibly my last post,

See ya,

Mike from Delhi

 
at 2:01 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

...and the crawl to 600 continues.
St CSA

 
at 1:20 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

The blog above, curious..."Frank Robinson was just a few years ago reembraced by Cincy fans, who for many years thought him a bigot, whiner, and lazy. Eric Davis and Mario Soto come to mind also as players criticized the entire length of their career here, yet are suddenly now the pride of the Reds past". Excuse me????? I have followed the Reds since 1950s. Frank Robinson was revered here - so much so that when Bill DeWitt traded him Reds fans ALL called that the worst trade the Reds ever made. As for Eric Davis, the fans here loved him WHILE HE PLAYED. He was left out in Oakland after the World Series and had to find his own way home - that was the owner, NOT the Reds fans who did that. There were eyebrows raised in the media and among Reds fans about that snub. Never heard anything bad about Soto from fans either. There is some revisionist history going on. Those three players were well liked by Reds fans while they were here.

 
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