Steroids: Who Really Cares?
The Mitchell Report comes out in 1o minutes and honestly, who outside the media and those directly affected cares?
Players? Nope. All refused to cooperate.
Fans? Not hardly. Recall the crowds for Bonds at GABP.
Team owners? No way. The Royals signed FA Jose Guillen AFTER he was found to have bought HGH. If M. Tejada's on the list, Hsn will have dealt 5 players to get him.
Selig? Shoot him up w/truth serum, he'll say this is about appearances, not solutions. According to an extensive report by Howard Bryant on ESPN.com, investigators never asked how Baseball might cleanse itself. They just wanted to know who was dirty.
Fact is, no sport wants to know everything, because every sport relies on big names to make money. No fan goes to games, watches TV, reads sports pages to feel bad, or to be bored into a coma by Senate hearings and court proceedings. Bengals fans no longer care that Odell Thurman has battled a drinking problem. They're sad he's not playing middle linebacker.
The Mitchell probe is better than nothing, but don't think for a second it's close to what has really happened. No one wants you to know that.
posted by Paul Daugherty at 1:47 PM
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Post a Comment*I care.
For one thing, I care that these guys drop dead in their 50's as a result of steroid abuse.
I care that they skew the recordbooks.
The story is going to be the famous guys who took steroids.
I don't think so. It's the famous guys who did not. And it is ESPECIALLY the "not-so-famous" who resisted what had to be terribly tempting. They should get extra credit or something.
Hmmm...I wonder if you care enough to bring it up on your radio show tonight??? With football and college basketball seasons afoot, there are other sports stories, but I guess you might make mention of the 'roids.
I'll also bet that you'll have a caller mention Pete Rose.
Just a guess.....
Three posts in three days!?! Keep up the good work, Paul!
Paul,
I care, I think what these players did should be highly punishable offenses.
What they did directly affected the competitve balance in games.
I don't buy the crap excuse that it wasn't illegal to use steriods or HGH at the time.
It was against federal and state law unless the players had a prescription.
My guess is few if any of them did.
This is obviously an exagerated example... but if I'm at the plate and I pull out a gun and shoot the pitcher there is no baseball rule to say I can't do it.
But it still is against the law and would end you up in jail.
It will be interesting to see if any federal indictments come down from fallout of this report.
Care? Nah, not too much. It's tabloid entertainment.
Fascinated? Yeah, I think so.
I don't think there's much to the "integrity of the game" anymore and your statement about Selig/ownership is exactly correct. It's not about disciplining the players or even cleaning up the game. It's about appeasing the fans to the point where they think the sport is cleaned up.
Hey Doc...do you know what's happened? Tell us if you do.Why keep a lid on it? MONEY has messed up baseball bigger than anything.
1/4 billion dollar 10 year contracts to $9 beers...it's all way too much.
Beyond the obvious topic and ramifications of drug abuse in MLB (and other sports), which should be addressed and rectified, there is another disturbing aspect to this story; due-process has been eliminated. One person rats out another; what an interesting way to absolve oneself of their own responsibilities and contribution to the problem. Seems like an odd way to get to the truth of the matter. Obviously the drug problem is a HUGE one, yet even with the 'interesting' statical records that were made, one persons word over another is a bad way to go. Due-process is ( or was) in place for a very good reason. Looks like it may be a thing of the past, which greatly and negatively effects us all.
great point 5:20. know how this "investigation" is bogus? a legitimate, thorough investigation wouldn't have relied so heavily on circumstancial evidence produced by a single individual who made a deal to avoid prosecutors to avoid jail time.
and are we really to believe this radomski fellow, clubhouse attendant for the new york mets, was such a big fish in the world of steroid distribution as to be the supplier for millionaire ballplayers in cities across the u.s.? and surely not everybody involved in this wasn't stupid enough to write a personal check to this guy to pay for these illegal substances? whole thing stinks.
this is window dressing. it's ridiculous. it's less than half a loaf and it's kind of insulting. if you have xm radio, be sure to listen to rob dibble's show tomorrow, he's bashing the hell out of it and he's making tons of sense.
more here.
Who cares?
Anybody who knows a kid playing a sport. For them to see the impact that these drugs can have will be buckling for the future of sports.
Eventually its going to become cheaper, high school kids will buy them to get to college, then they will become sickly or dead.
Who is responsible for that? 30 Owners, over 1000 players, Media that ignored it, Media that was scared, and the fans that were gullible enough to believe it was natural
Thanks for killing kids guys!
Danny
On no! Not my man Roger Clemens! And I just thought he was Superman in a baseball uniform.
Wonder if George will pay him $17 million next year to ~5-5 in half year.
Hope Selig takes the biggest hit - what a stiff.
"Say it ain't so, Joe"
paul:
I care.I care about baseball and I care about the Reds.
If Castellini could get a quorum and immediately fire Selig, that would send a message that MLB is serious about the game and starting a new era. Put in Bob Costas or some other credible commissioner and send a message to Donald Fehr that the a new sheriff is in town. I'd also demand HGH testing immediately and if the Union balked, I'd ask for Congressional intervention. I care about our pasttime and Reds fans should too. I'd also cut Mike Stanton tomorrow.
Castellini- if your listening, it's time to show some leadership.
word to Bud Selig-
what are you paid in a year?
surely enough to go a genuine tailor who can fit you in a suit instead of the baggy shambles you regularly wear.and how about something resembling a hairstyle,huh? c'mon.
who cuts your hair? Floyd in Mayberry?
Really , Doc ?
"Plagiarism: Who Really Cares ?"
"Illegal insider trading: Who Really Cares ?"
"Perjury: Who Really Cares ?"
Anyone with an ounce of integrity and a vial of respect cares !
I care.
Paul I would say you are wrong about Thurman. Many fans are mad at the team for drafting him in the first place. His drug use was well documented. Do we care that he drinks and smokes etc? Not one bit. Do we care that the front office screwed up drafting him yes.
Robert YOung
Milford
Paul I would say you are wrong about Thurman. Many fans are mad at the team for drafting him in the first place. His drug use was well documented. Do we care that he drinks and smokes etc? Not one bit. Do we care that the front office screwed up drafting him yes.
Robert YOung
Milford
9:26 PM,
That was a really cheap shot! All the guys in Mayberry had better hair than Bud!
When I was a kid, I ate, drank, and slept baseball.
Sometime later, watching major league baseball became boring to me. I think part of it is the many years of futility by the Reds. Part of it is the outrageous salaries paid, especially the millions paid to less than average players that hit .250 or less or can't even break even with a pitching record.
And now with the steroid abuse, major league baseball has become a complete joke.
I enjoy a good baseball game, but I'll be spending my money watching UC baseball play. They play in a great stadium and you are close to the action. And they are playing more for the love of the game, as opposed to the money.
I care that America's youth have learned that if you do something illegal in order to make money it's acceptable.
I care that elitest owners, concerned ONLY about their R.O.I. looked the other way as baseball's went 600' or were being thrown 100mph by just about every pitcher in MLB.
I care that all professional sports seem to be following the script written by the WWWF. Take the juice,roid, HGH or whatever you have to, just get bigger, throw it harder, hit it further and to hell with your long term health.
Gee, the next thing you'll be asking us to believe that it's normal for a human to be 6'6, 320 and run a 4.8 forty. Good thing football doesn't have this problem.
It's not whether you won or lost but how you played the game, remember?
As a fan, the whole thing just continues to be insulting. The steroid chronicals take the owners and players arrogance and greed from the stratousphere, and blast it into the heavens like a juiced up home run off McGwire's bat. Sure the fans were duped, but I also find it funny that many in the media dismiss steroid use as old news that shouldn't have suprised anyone who possessed two eyes. Really? Then why is it that so many knew exactly what was happening before their eyes during the 1990's, yet never actually made any effort to investigate, document, and report performance enhancing drug use by MLB players? And stumbling across the fact that there is a 5 gallon drum of Creatine, sitting ready for it's glammour shot in a player's locker, that 25 reporter's catch on tape while interviewing a slugger on an assult of the single season home run record, doesn't count as effort. Even now, all that we really have to go by are Conseco's book, the Balco investigation, and the Mitchell Report, which all lack critical elements of due process for the accused(Really to me, the most damning accusations came from Conseco & Caminiti). So now what? Well, I agree with the Mitchell Report that no active player should be punished for past use, but moving forward, players should get banned for life if caught using drugs that influence the outcome of games. MLB management and ownership sure does look like they are going to get out of this without any culpability, which is why Bud is such a indignant S.O.B. I guess.
Bud Selig's America --the land of bilk and money
Every health care worker that is going to have to deal with these over indulged, over glorified, "don't you know who I am?.. so take care of me before all the other really sick patients" cry babies, cares. We see the end results on all their diagnostic studies and the health problems associated with the abuse of steroids. Personally, kill yourself if you want, just take all health care providers out of the mix...you give us all migraines. Talk about a waste of time and health care dollars, you're looking at it.
May I have a drumroll, please.......
And the winner is: Selig and the other owners, who continue to line their collective pockets. These guys could care less about the consequences of their inaction.
And the losers are: The innocent kids who abuse these dangerous drugs for a 1 in 10,000 shot of some day becoming a professional athlete.
Like Ricky Ricardo might say: "The winners are goin' to have some splanen' to do" (to St. Peter that is)
Hey Doc:
If you happen to read this, let us know what is happening with ANDY FURMAN now that SuperTalk 96.5 sold out its format to the new cheesy "rock" format.
Hope to hear of Furball's fate soon, as I enjoy his shows immensely.
I for one will watch a game to see home runs or touchdowns.
I really couldn't care less what drug they are on.
Absolute center of this mess >> BUD SELIG.
He's a _hore for the owners. His family must be so proud. (&, of course, rich)
When you go away, would you want to be BUD SELIG?
Castellini...?
You're right Paul--who cares?
While we're at it, why don't we just fix the games also--who cares?
Why don't we just throw out all pretense of fair play--who cares?
Why don't we just allow the franchises with the most money to purchase championships every year--who cares?
You point out record crowds at GABP for Bonds--I also recall him being booed at every park he visited. You also might want to check OVERALL baseball attendance in...say the salad days of the 70's...vs. the steroid days of the 90's and since the milleneum--you'll find AVERAGE attendance WAY DOWN.
Who cares---the multitude of fans NOT ATTENDING....
I dont remember Paul and others in the media saying "who cares" when barry bonds was "outed" for possibly taking steriods? Wallace matthews was right. there is a double standard in the media and it also seems to be drawn down Racial lines. (by the way, Wallace matthews is white). So i'm sure Paul wont post these comments on his blogpage. If jason Whitlock had wrote the same article but blamed black people guys like Paul would be all over the article. Talk about double standards.
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