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Paul Daugherty
Paul Daugherty has been an Enquirer sports columnist since 1994 and has been chronicling Cincinnati sports since 1988. He has covered almost every major sporting event in America, as well as five Summer Olympics. Along the way, he has been named one of the country's top-5 sports columnists four times, and Ohio columnist of the year on seven different occasions. Last year, he was voted 2nd-best sports columnist in the country, by the Associated Press Sports Editors.

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Wednesday, August 01, 2007

the no-trade deadline

The perception is strong that the Reds wanted way too much for the likes of A.Dunn. In doing some background work today, the reactions I got from those who'd know ranged from "ridiculous'' to "unrealistic.'' Believe what you want.

Regardless, the Reds had some big cards to play -- Dunn, Arroyo, Weathers, even Griffey -- and held 'em... you'd like to think that given the results this year -- and the previous six -- that the Reds understand small changes aren't going to do. The inactivity leaves you wondering.

Of course, the roster today could look entirely different by Opening Day next year. But if the deadline silence means B. Castellini, W. Krivsky and others believe the Reds are, metaphorically speaking, one player away, brace yourself for, oh, 77-85 in '08, too. By the way: No big-time manager likely would come to work here w/the current roster. Not if he had a choice.

The Dunn thing wasnt surprising, just disappointing. You get a couple decent prospects and maybe a decent major-league outfielder for him, and move on, $13m better in the wallet. Again: It's no slam on Dunn to say he'll make too much money next year for the Reds to keep him. His production wouldnt be duplicated, but if you use some of his salary to pay pitching, it wouldnt need to be... and it would begin a much-needed personality makeover in the clubhouse...

As it is, we're back in wait-and-see mode.


18 Comments:

at 11:43 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul, I feel you are accurate in your statements. It seems that Castellini's eyes are bigger than his stomach when it comes to making good on promises to 'make momma happy.' This is Bengaldom circa 1999/2000 all over again... Speaking of the Bengals, why don't we concentrate on a team who actually deserves the attention? The Reds are yesterdays news, and I have a feeling we'll be saying that for a very long time.

 
at 12:23 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I understand what you mean about $13M being too much, but you have gone on and on about this without getting specific about what they should do with the money. Give us names. How about Gil Meche and Rheal Cormier? Or perhaps Alex Gonzalez, and two Kent Merckers? This organization is stacked with guys who can bat seventh and eighth. They need all the middle-of-the-lineup hitters that they can squeeze onto. Who would replace Dunn in the middle of the lineup that would make less and still prevent pitchers from pitching around Jr.? The problems with this team have nothing to do with the offense or how much money they make. It's about the bullpen and what they are paying the relievers! Why would you sign Mercker to a two (2) year deal when guys like Coutlangus are available for practically nothing? What scout suggested that Saarloos would be a good acquisition? These are the real issues with this team. This team WAS close. Now that Lohse is gone, they're even further away. Dollar-for-dollar there will not be a better starting pitcher on the market next year. Are they planning on starting the year with three lefthanded slowballers in the rotation. Last time they tried that with two (Dave Williams and Brandon Claussen), well you know how that went. We know about the Reds' ability to develop pitching, but name one above-average position player, other than Dunn, that the Reds have developed. I'm not sure that the major league club needs to be blown-up, but the scouting staff is long overdue and serious overhaul. Maybe they should ask the Bengals for help on scouting.

 
at 1:31 PM Blogger Mark said...

But the Reds are only one player away. If they had a closer (allowing Weathers to setup in the 8th inning), they would be in the hunt for a playoff spot this year.

 
at 3:52 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will never figure out why you are such an apologist for "Mr. Castellini" on your show and in your columns. He's been there long enough to show us something and has not.

Remember he's the guy that got over $30 million for a fruit stand when the stadiums were built?

 
at 4:05 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul, call me naive but I'm still holding out hope that Castelinni will bring us a winner. He's got to know that by standing pat, he's not helping the team become better, so I would imagine that there will be mmajor overhaul this coming off-season. If there isn't, then I'll join the rest of the sceptics.

By the way, good move on your new pic on the blog. The previous one (wearing your jeans) was just getting... old.

Paul Allaer
Blue Ash

 
at 4:29 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doc-

I am going to use this space to vent on the state of reporting from our local media. Certainly, and honestly, not you. But, others. Let me explain.

You wrote the following in your blog: "it would begin a much-needed personality makeover in the clubhouse."

Now, I read EVERYTHING I can read about the Reds. I routinely read Fay's column, his blog, TRosencrans colum, his blog, Hal McCoy's stuff, the Reds website, you...NOWHERE has that sentence been explained.

What does Adam Dunn do that contributes to this team needing a "personality makeover"? Specifically. I know that Narron or Miley or someone removed his lounge chair from the clubhouse some time ago. Is that the issue? Why not a column or article from our local reporters that answers this question: "What and who on this team contribute to it needing a "personality makeover?"

What does Dunn do? Is he lazy? Out of shape? A cancerous personality? Does he party every night and come in hungover? Does he not work hard to improve his game?

I think Dunn is sub-par left-fielder, who hits 'em long, but strikes out too much. As far as his personality in the clubhouse--I've heard nothing but hints that he is a problem.

I'm concerned, sometimes, that those in the local media fear alienating those that they cover.

Sports is not life-or-death. It's entertainment. We want the skinny. To entertain us and to inform us. It would be nice to know that Adam Dunn is a fast-food-eating, lazy, clubhouse cancer. Or not.

PLEASE TELL US!

 
at 10:08 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do we continue to let Castellini (and our former owner Mr. Lindner) cry poorhouse? Dunn's $13 mil is too expensive? Well, for one, why did Krivsky do that deal then (which also made it very difficult to trade him), and why did Castellini approve it if that's too much?

But more importantly, why do we take it as gospel that the Reds are small market and can't compete? The Reds made more than $22 mil. last year in revenue - 7th in the major leagues. That's $22 mil. in the pockets of a half billionaire (Castellini) and a couple multi, multi millionaire legacies (the Williams boys) (and don't even get me started on Lindner).

Granted, there are other ways to determine a team's value that will give a better picture than simply revenue (the Yanks, for instance, lost millions last year in revenue, but the (estimated) value of the franchise increased). But still, why isn't this money being poured back into the team? I thought Castellini was "a fan." I guess he'd rather make some more money ("Up to $508 mil. now!!! Sure, honey, buy another Benz.") and lose than break even and try to win. I know it's a business, but if he just wants to make money, he should have bought real estate or mutual funds.

But, no, we can't afford Dunn. We only took home $22 mil, more than 23 other teams. If that money would be put into payroll, maybe the stands would be filled. Maybe he wouldn't need to do dollar hot dog and discount ticket nights. Maybe he wouldn't need Cubs fans to fill the ballpark. Maybe the team would make the playoffs and he'd get some revenue from those extra games. Maybe people would buy jerseys the way they've done with the Bengals. MAYBE HE'D GET A RETURN ON HIS INVESTMENT!!!!

But fans and the media continue to harp that we can't afford to up payroll. I'm not saying he should lose money on the deal (of course, he won't - he'll sell the club for substantially more than he bought it for), but why should he be in the top quarter in revenue while the Reds suck (again), while at the same time crying poor house? AND WHY WON'T ANYONE CALL HIM OUT ON IT!!!!!!!???????? He says he wants to win, well, show us. He's playing with house money. Put some in the pot. The county built this team a stadium (the Yankees, for instance, are building their own $1 billion privately funded stadium - I'd say the Reds franchise got a pretty good deal there). Time to pay us back.

 
at 1:08 PM Blogger Unknown said...

Ok everybody likes a winner, but let me lend another perspective pertaining to the current state of the Reds organization. This past Saturday morning I went on line and bought 4 tickets for me and my family see to the Reds vs. Cubs 7:15 game that same evening. We sat on the 3rd base side in the upper deck, had a great view of the field and the river, etc. It was a beautiful evening, not too hot, the tickets were not too expensive and the food/snacks very good. Soriano hit 2 homers, Lee one (everybody likes home runs). The Reds happened to lose 8 to 1 but I didn't lose any sleep over it. I totally enjoyed the evening, my daughters totally enjoyed the experience and we had a fun night. If the Reds were "in the hunt" could I get tickets on short notice like this? No, of course not. I'd like to see these guys do better for their sake, but like I said, I'm not losing any sleep over it.

 
at 2:00 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul,

The Reds season is over, they stink. They will continue to stink until baseball re-configures revenue sharing.
Do me a favor, tell me when the Bearcats start 2 a-days? I saw Koch's article about the team... what do you think about the increased recruiting success for UC and their prospects this year. It seems from what little I gleen from the paper things are on a real upswing.

 
at 8:02 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul,

The good news is that is a much better picture of you.

 
at 9:08 AM Blogger Paul Daugherty said...

Thanks to one and all for the swell comments re my new photo... all the operations to straighten my head and neck went very well, as did the procedure to remove the old shirt from my torso. I look forward to my new picture self-life with renewed happiness and vigor.

 
at 10:36 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you elaborate on the 'personality makeover' that's needed in the clubhouse? What does that mean? Are the boys not getting along?

 
at 12:16 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you going to football practice today? Baseball season has been over in Cincinnati since May 10th. Didn't you get the memo.

 
at 3:57 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go Bearcats!
Go Bengals!

in no particular order...

 
at 9:51 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice picture Doc. The Reds still suck.

 
at 6:50 PM Blogger cow town said...

Doc, do you have any indication that the Reds were offered a couple of prospects and a ml-ready outfielder for Dunn? That would be pretty heavy return for a two-month rental. The Braves only gave up slightly more than that for Texiera, and he's under contract for next season.

As for the Reds not being able to afford Dunn's $13 million for next year, I think that's a pretty big assumption. There weren't any teams dumping salary this trading deadline. MLB is awash in money, and revenue sharing seems to be spreading it around better thqan ever before.

As for making changes with the Reds, I would like to see them take a good chunck of the $13 million in savings from having Milton and Lohse off the roster and sign Gagne to be closer. Sign Everyday Eddie to help Weathers set up, and round out the 'pen with Burton, Cooter, Bray and McBeth. Get the right guys in the right roles and that 'pen could improve by leaps and bounds in a short time.

The Reds also need to sign a starting pitcher to replace Lohse. Then the '08 rotation could be Harang, Arroyo, free agent signee, Bailey, and Livingston.

Finally, the Reds could head into next season with Keppinger, Freel and Hopper on their bench, which along with the #2 catcher and a defensive shortstop could be respectable. No pop, but guys who can get on base, steal bases, move runners and get bunts down.

But the biggest need is a closer, which will have trickle down impact through the 'pen. The #2 need is a starter to slot in behind Harang and Arroyo.

 
at 8:12 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul--

Now the Reds HAVE to trade Dunn--almost everything you wrote in that article could be said of Griffey:

1. He's too expensive for the Reds.
2. He'll be more valuable as a DH in the AL.
3. The money freed up could be used to get more affordable, statistically valuable players--especially pitchers

The Reds have plenty of capable outfielders who could fill both Griffey and Dunn's position defensively...for far less money.

Make the smart move--trade Dunn and Griffey NOW, and use that cash to beef up the pitching staff.

I've been singing this song for 2 years..

Just Sayin'!

 
at 9:16 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Although I'm a little behind on the issue I would like to say thanks DOC for the new pic. It's not so...you know...freaky. PS Reds Suck, Dunn is a waste of space, Castellini will make an overhaul of the team. I think he is letting Krivsky work his plan.Whatever that may be because they will not tell us anything. I think we need to get a pettion together and yes I know it's your idea but the fences should be moved back 10 feet.

 
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