baseball town?
Spew from the weekend:
The Reds drew 22,000 on a perfect Sunday afternoon, having won 7 of 9 on the current homestand. Tell me again how this is a baseball town...
Jerry Narron says he still trusts Gary Majewski, but he has to be looking at the newest Red and seeing the rest of his beleaguered bullpen. Majewski is trying too hard to justify the trade. He needs to pitch and forget about it.
I love golf and the Open Championship, but the # of commercials on ABC destroys any flow you might get from the event. Nevertheless, how amazing was it to watch guys whose golf balls were a foot from the face of those bunkers somehow get them out?
Lemme see if I have this straight: Matthias Askew gets tased for a parking ticket? Tell me there's more to this than that. Can the Bengals go a few days w/o someone getting in trouble? Interesting take on them on espn.com, from KC star columnist Jason Whitlock, who claims Marvin's ego has exploded to the point where he believes he can handle any player. Maybe, but Whitlock sabotages his point by using Chad Johnson as an example. 85 is not a bad person or a problem in the locker room. Far from it. Regardless, the antics are getting old, as are Lewis' and Mike Brown's lame answers for them.
Stupid movie rental of the week: Failure to Launch. Better bet: The Great Raid. In case you were wondering.
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Post a Comment*I have never been enamored with Jason Whitlock's writing in the Kansas City Star or elsewhere. He writes and publishes first, then does the research. If he thinks Marvin's ego has exploded, perhaps he ought to take stock with the beneficiaries of the Marvin Lewis Foundation throughout our community. He might be surprised with what he would find.
Whitlock's conclusion from an utterly false premise qualifies as the non sequitur of the year, at least so far.
Chip Lapp
Kenwood OH
Cincinnati is still a baseball town, a lot of people I know watch the game at home or listen to it on the radio. The Reds do a poor job of getting people to the games.
Majewski will be alright, he'll come around.
Right on with ABC and the commercials, just way too many.
I think Marvin's ego is in check. Some of these players where trouble makers and Marvin knew it and others, like Askew, no one could see coming. The success of the team has only highlighted the offseason troubles. Let not forget, we aren't the only team in the league with players who have had run ins with the law.
That is funny that you mention Failure to Launch as a bad rental, I was just telling someone else the same thing. Haven't seen The Great Raid though.
Cincinnati is a baseball town, just not a Reds' town. Unfortunately I can't go to a game right now, b/c of where I live. But just thinking back since 2003 when GABP opened, the games I attended with the most attendance were when the Braves, Cubs, Cardinals and Yankees came in. Cleveland drew a good crowd in the single game I attended of a series, but I never see a packed house for any other team except Opening Day. I know the Reds have been struggling a bit, but they are still leading the Wild Card. The city hasn't seen a playoff push in seven years and hasn't made the playoffs in 11. Who cares who the Reds are playing. Go support YOUR hometown team. Maybe by showing players some support, new acquisitions such as Majewski won't be putting so much pressure on himself to perform.
Geoff
Salyersville, KY
"Cincinnati is still a baseball town, a lot of people I know watch the game at home or listen to it on the radio. The Reds do a poor job of getting people to the games."
I have to disagree at least in part. In a "baseball town" there are really only two things a team needs to do to get people in the seats. 1. Win (the Reds are doing that better than in recent times) and 2. Keep ticket prices to a reasonable level (I would say that they are similar to other similar markets).
The Reds shouldn't have to have hot wheels giveaways or free booze and other slick marketing to get folks in the seats if this is a "baseball town."
Once I would have agreed that this is a baseball town, I am no longer so certain.
Reds fans have adopted a bit of a "show me" attitude in recent years, probably because they're tired of the recent trend of decent starts followed by late season collapses.
Plus, it's been 11 years since the Reds have tasted the postseason and fans have been promised things (like winning teams by GABP's opening in 2003) that were not delivered.
Even in 1999, the Reds' last contending season, big crowds didn't really show up until September. Die hard fans will show up regardless. But the feeling for casual fans seems to be: "Prove that you're a true contender, THEN we'll support you." The Reds' attendance situation this season has 1999 written all over it.
-Bill D.
Loveland
Cincinnati is not a baseball town. Maybe in the 70's when the Machine was rolling. But not now. Not since Nascar came on the scene.
St. Louis, Chicago, Boston, NY. These are baseball towns.
The problem with the national media is that they all see Chad as a problem and the root of the problem and are not willing to hear any other side.
Brian, The problem with the "national'' media, i.e. the folks who don't work here, is that it's stuffed w/people who make a living talking (and sometimes writing) about things and people they know very little about. Chad dances, he guarantees wins, he acts out at halftime of a playoff game, therefore he is symbolic of what supposedly ails the Bengals. Most who comment on this have never met 85 or spent more than 30 seconds with him. BTW, shameless plug: My book w/him comes out Aug. 29...
I agree that the "national media" may not give Chad Johnson a fair shake. But with all due respect, I also think the "local media" paints him to be a little too angelic and turns a blind eye to some things they shouldn't.
I think it's more likely that he falls somewhere between the "selfish poison" view of the national media, and the "saintly savior" view of the local media.
I think that's fair.
Whatever, I'm looking forward to the book on 85 and hope to get an autographed copy shortly after its release.
Chip Lapp
Kenwood Oh
You have got to be one of the most arrogant sports writers ever in Cincy. You never have nothing great to say. Cincinnati is the BASEBALL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD you idiot. It began there in 1869. Talking bout 2006 now where contenders. Sure of being in the playoffs and you continue to talk smack aboput everything and anything REDS. I hate your blogs.
According to baseball-almanac.com. Here are the following attendance numbers for the Reds in big years
1972 - 20,928
1975 - 28,588
1990 - 29,640
2006 - 26,344
I really think people are getting a little hysterical over the whole thing. The Reds are doing just fine. They are on the same pace that the market has dictated for years.
Anonymous... to compare the #s now w/30 or 15 years ago is misleading. A better measure would be to see how much MLB attendance as a whole is up since then, take that % and compare it to Reds attendance. %-wise, you'd see how poor it is. Last I looked, they were aboutn 13th in the league. Thank goodness for Pgh and the Marlins.
Paul, you want proof that Cincinnati is still a baseball town? Go over to Marc's blog and see how many comments are on each one of his posts, and compare that to how many comments are made in any other of the blogs.
I got all the proof I needed yesterday when the pennant-racing Reds felt the need to bribe their fans with half-price tickets and dollar wienies to attend the biggest series of the year. Not a baseball town. Sorry.
Paul, you're a d*ck.
Paul, why are you so hell bent on convincing everyone that Cincinnati isn't a baseball town anymore? Our attendance isn't that bad. I went to the game this past Saturday and I believe the total was around 35,000. We have a smaller market than the Bostons and Chicagos. The Reds' winning tradition has been absent for several years now. When that returns, so will the casual fans. Fans like myself would go no matter what the record was.
Nice job, Ken... keep those intelligent posts coming.
Hey, I'm just a very passionate Reds fan. Anything that gets people out to see them is a good thing in my book.
Yes, discounts galore. But even after getting shelled 13-1 monday night, GABP was still sold out Tuesday. I'd say baseball is still alive and kicking in Cincy.
Again, anything that gets people to the park is a good thing to me. That's why department stores have sales.
Cincinnati is not a baseball town.
Maybe Westsiders still cling to the disappointing Reds, but everyone else in Cincinnati roots for the Bengals over the Reds.
Even when the Bengals were terrible, this was a football town.
If you want to watch baseball, go for it, but wake me up between games 30 and 140, since they are all the same for 6 months.
Shorten the season and the game and gain some fans, otherwise, I'll check in every few weeks to see when they finally go kaput and lose whatever standing they gained throughout the season.
Baseball- 19th Century.
Football- Exciting.
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