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Paul Daugherty
Paul Daugherty has been an Enquirer sports columnist since 1994 and has been chronicling Cincinnati sports since 1988. He has covered almost every major sporting event in America, as well as five Summer Olympics. Along the way, he has been named one of the country's top-5 sports columnists four times, and Ohio columnist of the year on seven different occasions. Last year, he was voted 2nd-best sports columnist in the country, by the Associated Press Sports Editors.

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Saturday, March 29, 2008

Not so Goodyear

Enquirer photographer E. Coleman and I took a spin out to the Reds' proposed spring home today. Kinda looks like a nuclear test site.

Goodyear is one of those new suburbs where they have lots of land and nothing else. It has to be a developer's dream. Completely flat, so no 'dozing. No trees to have to knock down. Cheap land, as far as you can see. They've already plunked a few developments down (you can get any exterior color you want, as long as it's tan) and, of course, a few strip malls. You can be a million miles from civilization, but you're never more than a couple minutes from a Starbuck's. At a time when gas costs the rent money, we keep building places like Goodyear that are 20 miles from anything and there is no mass transit in sight.

No town center, no sense of place. Soulless. Community is your family room, watching ESPN.

The Reds' portion of the place is just dirt. The Indians part had light towers up and cinderblock skeletons of administration buildings. The Tribe is relocating here next Feb, the Reds the year after, if everything goes well, which I hope it doesn't.

Other than that, can't wait for Spring 2010.


17 Comments:

at 8:01 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I absolutely agree with your statements about these massive suburbs. I hope the Reds like Walmarts, Ruby Tuesdays, and traffic because that's what it sounds like they are going to get for a month every year in Arizona. Why cities continue to expand senselessly like that is beyond me. And in 20 years when Goodyear looks like crap they will just keep going further and further outward. Sounds like the Reds should reconsider their options..

 
at 8:24 PM Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

Reds spring training belongs in Florida. I don't go but I like the idea that it is there if I want to. Lots of Reds fans in Florida and lots more that go to spring training for vacation. Pissed off at Sarasota? Move to Pinellas Park.

 
at 8:33 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, that sounds brutal.

Trade Captain Curt's for Applebees.

 
at 9:02 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Castellini took the money & screwed the fans & poor sports writers as well - not a good omen.

His opening day choice of a second-rate politician (Portune, yeah I know he's handicapped & sympathize but...) for First Pitch was also crappy - shoulda been Kim Nuxhall.

C'mon Bob!?

 
at 9:19 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems typically of the abilities of John Allen to find the Reds' new spring training home at a dump like Goodyear.

 
at 11:02 PM Blogger Dan H said...

Or worse yet...trading Dacquiri Deck for Ruby Tuesday or Siesta Beach sand for desert sand ugh!! Here's to staying in Sarasota,I hope!

 
at 11:52 PM Blogger robby said...

One can only hope the Goodyear Council vote goes against the Reds. Castellini may be driven by the desire to field a winner, but a move to Arizona serves as a reminder that at the end of the day it is all about money.

Maybe if the Reds made less mistakes with the contracts they give players they would have had a little money to bridge the financing gap in Sarasota. (Stanton, Cormier, Freel, etc.)

 
at 2:27 AM Blogger Unknown said...

Completely agree Paul. I can't wait to escape from Florida's cool tiki bars, beaches, and historic hotels for the Holiday Inn expresses and TGI Friday's of Arizona. Kill me. I had a great trip this spring to FL visiting all the beaches up the coast.

 
at 5:01 AM Blogger Unknown said...

What is it with sports writers and mass transit? Sheesh....

If it's such a great idea someone would be getting rich off of it in Goodyear AZ. Got no problem with private money being spent on a transport business.

So far as Goodyear is concerned, I'm guessing that the Red's Fla location is just fine, but that they've got Mercedes-Benz tastes in Hyundai economic times.

 
at 8:03 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like West Chester or Mason or Landen...

 
at 9:53 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

"No town center, no sense of place. Soulless. Community is your family room, watching ESPN."

That statement pretty much sums up living in Arizona. Sure you don't have to put up with snow storms in March, but you give up a lot of character, culture and community.

And I don't care what anyone says - 115 degrees in July is unbearable.

 
at 1:15 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Living in Arizona is great. I live about 1 mile from the complex where the Rangers and Royals play in Surprise. Arizona is not barren of any culture or fun. So it's hot here in the Summer. While you are freezing, shoveling snow, watching your house flood, blow away in a tornado, etc I'm on the golf course or enjoying my pool and palm trees with my family. If we get bored in our den in our "barren" community we can always take a weekend trip to San Diego, L.A.,the Grand Canyon or to the Gulf of California in Mexico for a cheap beach holiday. Yeah, life is bad here...Let me make it clearer...I have gave up zero culture, neighborhood or community. My neighbors here are a lot better and nicer than ones I have had in Cincinnati.

 
at 3:18 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this makes better economic sense and gives the Reds even a xtra $500k or more that would go into a midseason trade or be the difference in signing a good starter or whatever then I'm all for it.

If it's just for a prettier park then no way.

But really I live for the regular season so if this produces $'s that help us win in the regular season, move Spring Training to Anchorage for all I care.

 
at 11:10 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Drinking Keystone Light (Paul's favorite beer) on your porch watchng the bug zapper is a fine example of community spirit and culture. Wow...I'm glad I don't live in Pauls neighborhood I don't think I'm cultured enough...Your constant rants against Arizona is tiresome. You are starting to sound like Chad Johnson.

 
at 9:28 AM Blogger Boone Jedi said...

Sounds like the Reds are giving up playing ball in "Naboo" to go play on "Tattoine".

Trust me you'll be sorry!!!!!

Stay in Florida, work it out for the fans sake...you've already locked up seats to the games that people actually WANT to go to forcing them to buy "package deals" they dont need or want...when the did the Reds join the "Evil Trade Federation"???

Florence Freedom Ball and "Thirsty Thursdays" are looking better all the time...

 
at 11:44 AM Blogger Unknown said...

If they go to Arizona, I'm never visiting. I'll stop drinking beer. I won't buy nuts. No more $6 bottled water. I'll park on the streets. I'll watch the games on TV. I won't buy from the sponsors.
I won't read the newspapers. I won't call the new road "Joe Nuxall Way." I'll refer to the park as the Great America Tax Fraud.

I'll become a Bengals supporte.....(gag, retch, barf)

Hell no!

Go Reds!

(But stay in Florida.)

 
at 11:12 AM Blogger Xxter said...

Your assessment of Goodyear is dead on accurate. Just as a form of contrast, (as you found) it was damn tough finding a place to eat or drink, or have fun in Phoenix last week. The blow-sand of Arizona will still be more evident than places of entertainment twenty years from now. Just my opinion here but, the almost vacant Goodyear won't be a "destination" for a long, long time and, you had better like a little dust with your baseball and hot dog.

 
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