The Post
Monday is its last day. Sad for those who work there or have worked there. I got my start writing columns at The Post, in 1988. At the time, Cincinnati was the best place in America to write sports opinion, and would remain that way for the 6 years I worked on Court Street. Consider the material: Marge, Pete, Boomer, Sam, Huggs, Stanley Wilson (sigh), Lou, Nasty Boys, wire to wire and on and on and on. What I learned at The Post was it's OK to take chances, to be a little outrageous, to stretch propriety's bounds. Newspapering is not a polite business. Number-two-in-town newspapering is less so. The Post gave me some latitude; encouraged it, in fact. I'm forever grateful.
Newspapers might have character still, but they lack characters. Their corporate, cookie-cutter nature discourages quirks. Bill Peterson -- shoulder-length red hair, dressed in combat fatigues -- might not get a shot in newspapers today. He did well at The Post before moving on to Austin, TX (and writing a column still for CityBeat). Sarge got the first interview with Pete after the Hit King's banishment.
So many good people... my friend Jerry Crasnick covered the Reds... Bob Queenan, an institution at The Post, among the kindest people I've ever known... Joe Posnanski, talent on loan from the Hemingway Estate... Todd Jones, Jack Brennan, Butch Hobson, the patient and empathetic Mark Tomasik, George Diaz, Jeff Lenihan. I could go on. The current guys, especially Lonnie Wheeler, a gentleman in an arena not always gentlemanly... CT Rosecrans, whose blog posts sometimees pushed my radio gig forward... Josh Katzowitz, ditto... Kevin Goheen and Little Takeo...
I've worked for 2 papers that are extinct, The Post and the Dallas Times Herald. While I've been fortunate enough to stay a step ahead of the Reaper, I feel the loss of both. A newspaper isn't just a place to punch a clock, because these days, no one who works at one does so unwillingly. It's very much a living, breathing institution, given life and personality by those who work for it. The Post was feisty, edgy, fun, right to the end. It also, to a large extent, showed us the future of what we do. The Reds and UC blogs were a compelling mix of fact and whimsy, where you learned not only about the teams, but about the guys covering those teams. Trent and Josh got that. They taught me a little about it.
Rambling here. I'll miss The Post, but no more than I'll miss seeing the guys who worked there. It will be weird not having Lonnie or Josh or Trent to my right or left on press row. My best to each of them. They will be missed.
23 Comments:
Well said Doc. Sadly I would say most of the cityu does not realize the importance of losing a second newspaper. As much as people might say how backwards this city is I believe for many years now it has been one of only three cities in the country that had an evening paper. And the reason I read The Post for so many years was because of the sports department. Never really knew how or why, just that The Post sports page kicked the Enquirer's tail dailey.
Monday's last edition will be an example of things changing; not always for the better.
Starting next week we'll have a choice w/ newspapers. If you want fresh news read USA Today. If you want to read the same thing 3 days later read the Enquirer because that is how Gannett runs thier local papers.
Robert Young
Milford
Doc -
I worked downtown for 26 years and my luncheon partner often was the early edition of the Post...it definitely was a refreshing view of the world as opposed to the one from Vine Street... many of us will be feeling the emptiness come Tuesday.
Doc--
Many memories of my dad, gone now for a year and a half, center around now gone afternoon papers. As a small child, my dad read the Cleveland Press (we lived in podunk Ashland, OH). After dad got a job for Scripps-Howard at channel 9 in town, every afternoon he'd come home from work with the Post in his hand. We'd read it together watching Al Schottelkotte.
I still like the Post better than the Enquirer for the stuff that matters--columnists and opinions. The hard news comes in faster forms these days.
Folks like you, Hoard, Rosecrans, Lancaster, make following the sports teams in this town more interesting.
Thanks for sharing those memories!
Michael Doerr
North College Hill
thanks for the kind word doc... got a spare bedroom?
It is a sad day. Media consolidation that started under Bill Clinton and continued and expanded under George Bush has created bland radio, bad reporting(see NY Times reporter who made up the stories), and only one editorial voice in most cities as newspapers cease to operate. The only competition is the net, though currently net reporting is no more fact checked than the late Weekly World News.
What is really sad is that TV media and networks have seen a decline in quality reporting as well. While watching the WWE Tribute to the Troops, I've seen parts of Iraq that are never shown on the nightly news and stories that are never told.
Losing the Post has a similar effect as the Enquirer now just has to compete with City Beat and bloggers. The Enquirer now can afford to become lazy as there is no competition.
The Post was "feisty, edgy, fun, right to the end?"
Right to the end of the 20th century, maybe. Not so much lately.
With some few exceptions (Nick Clooney for example, Lonnie Wheeler for another) it has become drab and lifeless, a place devoid of anything approaching public journalism.
When you're running Dayton Daily News copy, it's time to piss on the fire and call in the dogs.
Doc-
Your eloquence does the Post justice. Loved the Post (when I could find it!); loved the writers. It will be missed.
Rick Singel
Hyde Park
The discussion is more quiet.
The losses all came at the end of the year, and now some great sports voices are no longer heard. The debate cannot help being injured for a while.
And the voices that are gone were so willing to be unfailingly, sometimes brutally honest.
Joe Nuxall, The Post, The Gary Burbank Show.
RIP old friends.
11:11
What the Post had to do the past ten years, in the newspaper business, is like fighting with BOTH hands tied behind your back. They routinely scooped the Enquirer while doing so.
Agreed, very well said. I know similarly what it's like to miss those guys in the sports department. I worked with those guys regularly for about 5 years as a stringer and grew a strong bond. While it's been just over 2 years since I've set foot in the building, I cannot imagine much has changed. I've missed those guys every day since, so it will only get worse once the paper is in complete non-existance.
Here's a big shout-out and good luck to those I worked with. They all deserve a solid job somewhere. Tom Ramstetter, Kevin Goheen, Jason Williams, Lonnie Wheeler, Trent Rosencrans, Josh Katzowitz, Terry Boehmker, Keith Herrell, Victoria Sun...all good people and quality journalists.
Perhaps the saddest effect of The Post's closure is the loss of the Kentucky Post. The Enquirer does not give sports in Northern Kentucky much coverage unless it involves a school or team in Cincinnati. For years, including those I worked there, Terry Boehmker ran the most efficient and thorough portion of the entire paper. I highly doubt The Enquirer will pick up the slack left behind and to be blunt, it sucks that those that follow Northern Kentucky high school sports no longer will be able to get the same amount of information.
Once more, I wish all at The Post good luck in future endeavors. They taught me a lot about the field of sports journalism and I hope they can do the same elsewhere.
I first read your columns in the Post years ago, and living in the styx of Adams County I was disappointed when they pulled circulation back to just withing the city.
I still would pick up the post in the afternoons if I was in the city visiting a relative in the Hospital.
Lonnie writes such good stuff, if he isn't moving on it'd be nice if the Enquirer pick him up.
Doc -- Way to live big. Thanks, man.
How about wishing for #10 on the Christmas list you posted, jobs for the Post guys. I hate to see anyone lose their job. Best of luck Post Guys, you're very good at what you do!!!
Doc,
Thanks for the words on the blog and in your column today. It's much appreciated and, like usual, very well done.
That said, if you need, I don't know, somebody to run quotes for you or to wipe your forehead when you're tapping out your latest tome, I'm not really doing anything after tomorrow.
Prof. This is to Anon at 11:11
As someone who watched the Post staff dwindle and, somewhat ashamedly, bailed out of the sinking ship for greener pastures myself, I say Anon should also be ashamed. Proud, professional people working hard to the very end do not deserved to be ridiculed by the likes of him. People like Peggy Kreimer chasing down stories as the sun came up to make an a.m. deadline or Paul Gottbrath working well past midnight when logic told him he should go home and put the paper, and himself, to bed. Understaffed and underappreciated, they and their couterparts upheld the highest principles of journalistic integrity, under dire circumstances, to the end. I am proud to have called them colleagues and will never forget any of them!
Doc,
Well put. As a former Post reporter, this is a sad day.
You know, I would've liked to read the final issue... As a loyal Post reader for years, the paper became harder and harder to find. I've spent the past two days trying to find the final issue. I've been all over the city, looking in boxes, in stores and even Fountain Square News. Nothing.
The irony...
I'm almost glad to be relieved of the burden of constantly searching it out, no kidding.
The Post was killed by poor distribution, nothing else.
We lose The Post, but have a need to employ men like Bill Cunningham whose comments in a recent edition of The Enquirer regarding The Post were heartless and insensitive. I will never understand our fascination with the likes of him and not a newsworthy paper...let alone writers like Wheeler, CLooney, Joyce Rosencrans and the like.
Agreed... I hope that the folks at the Enquirer don't let up on the local sports squads... Remain the voice of the fan.. Ask the tough questions... It does have an effect, even if those in charge refuse to admit it or take heed...
Jay,
Western Hills
THE TRUTH FINALLY COMES OUT! NO WONDER YOU BASHED HUGGINS YOUR BUDDIES WITH JEFF WYLER!! PATHETIC DOC!!
I'd forgotten about Jason Williams. Remember when he got in that controvery with Bob Huggins? Huggs said of UC fans, "f'em, just F'em." Then Mr.Class denied saying it.
Of course the same people he said that of were down at US Bank last year in their purple KSU gear.
Pathetic.
Joe Posnanski???
I know he has a handful of sportswriting awards working for the KC Star but he is virtually ignored in KC because he's so boring. Clevar quips and talented I'm sure, but how many "human interest" type stories can fans stomach in a year?
Apparently not many, because the number of on-line views of his column pales in comparison to his counterpart Jason Whitlock who is actually a very poor writer--but he at least has something to say!
This goes to Fred Garvin, post made @ 12:25 AM:
It's sad that readers such as yourself, assuming you were a regular reader of The Post, will only remember Jason W. for the Huggins incident. Nevermind all the other fantastic journalistic things he did for the paper. He worked his tail off on some of the most difficult stores to meet necessary deadlines. If anyone knew Jason without knowledge of the Huggins incident, no one would guess he'd end up involved in something like that. How about we start remembering sports writers, or journalists in general, for the good things they do and the hard work they put into what they do. It's sad that if Doc were to be involved in a similar situation that he'd only be remembered for that. Everyone would forget about the solid writing done for multiple newspapers, book, and now the radio show. Bothersome.
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