Loyalty is a 1-way street
The charlatans who coach college basketball have outdone themselves this year. Anytime any coach preaches loyalty, reach for your coat. Except, perhaps, Billy Donovan, who will stay at Florida even as most of his team leaves.
How 'bout Huggs? K-State offers him resurrection, he thanks them by bolting at 1st light. Yeah, I know, he turned around the program, 23-12, NIT etc., but please. Wouldn't you think he owed them more than a year? But forget the school. Huggs hosed Bill Walker and Michael Beasley. Walker didnt go to Manhattan, KS, because he likes corn. Now, after missing nearly all of last year, he'll have to miss all of another, if he follows his loyal leader to WVU. Which he probably won't, because he doesnt want to be in college in the first place, so he'll serve his penance at K-State next winter, then declare for the draft. Meanwhile, Beasley has already signed with the Wildcats, who have indicated they'll hold him to that. So, he's stuck.
It would be revolutionary, nice even, if successful coaches actually honored a contract. Failing that, the rule should be changed, allowing the Walkers and Beasleys of the world to express the same "loyalty'' as the coach they agreed to play for.
And, oh yeah, does UK have a coach yet? Tell me again how it's one of the best jobs in college basketball, and how great coaches would love to work there. Wright, Barnes, Donovan... step right up.
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Kansas State has to know that they were a stepping stone, much like most mid-major schools are. They should be happy the Huggins left them in good shape and put their name on the map.
Anyone who knows much about Huggins would have known that he was probably going to take the WVU job when it opened up. You know, a few years ago Huggins turned down the WVU job and was loyal to UC, then he got burnt. So you can't say that he has no loyalty.
Huggs showed loyalty to UC when WV, his alma mater came knocking a few years ago.
How was he rewarded??? NaZi showed him the door.
Bob got a chance again to go back to his alma mater, why not wish him well. He did an excellent job for UC for 16 years with NCAA appearances 14 years in a row until Zimpher screwed up the whole thing.
Now UC is a doormat. Zimpher got what she wanted --- to be top dog on campus.
Let's wish Bob well at WV. At least we'll get to see/play him oncea year.
Obviously the hometown connection is largely at play here, but....
Make no mistake about it, Kansas State couldn't offer the one huge carrot that WV can - the chance to stick it to UC and Zimpher, on a regular basis. Everywhere UC turns Huggins will be there - multiple games each year, the recruiting trail, chasing the same league title.
Anyone who knows Huggins even a little knows this was an offer he COULDN'T refuse. Everybody buckle up.
Hey Paul. You are way off on all topics as usual. UK is still the destination in college basketball. They got a great coach in Billy G. He will rebuild what Ten Loss Tubby tore down.
And give Hugs a break. He's not going to win the Nobel prize, but he's going home to his WV roots. I promise you he would have left UC in 2002 if he knew how he would be treated by the UC athletic program. It's a tough loss for Kstate, but WVU is the only school he would have left for. Also expect Beasley and Walker to follow, they don't deserve being held hostage in middle of nowhere Kansas.
ps I won't be listening to you on SportsTalk. I don't want to fall asleep that early in the evening!
Actually, Manhattan is in the part of Kansas where they grow wheat. So, while Bill Walker may not like corn, he may very well like his whole grain bread...
I like how everyone blasts Z for "destroying" UC basketball, but when Huggs bolts on his savior it's just going home, or merely a business thing. Getting rid of Huggs was a good business decision, imho. Anyone who cheers for the guy in our own house should be booted.
Good bussiness decision to get rid of Hugg's? Not following that one. Loyalty comes around to bit you like it did for Hugg's at UC. He should go, Kansas State will move on and still be in better shape than UC.
Good business decision??? I hope you are not a business man or the Wall Street Journal is going to do a piece on you as the most unorthodox business man in the world. Now as for you Doc. Dont you think you are being a little hypicritical? Yea I agree the people, players, and administration in Manhattan, Kansas got burned, but if ESPN or USA Today came calling your name with a major check behind it and the oppertunity to return home you are telling me you wouldnt take it? Manhattan got national attention and even made some noise out there so they are better off for having Huggins even if just for one year. He got the boot here and now has the oppertunity to return to his alma mater and the Big East. He showed amazing loyalty at UC many times from turning down big pay days to jump to the NBA to turning down his alma mater. So look at the collective body of work and maybe yourself in the mirror before you rip on Huggins "Loyalty"
Huggs turned down WVU 5 years ago when that program was a disaster. Let's not rewrite history. Huggs likes to talk about "loyalty", maybe someone should ask Steve Moeller, John Loyer what a loyal guy Huggs is.
Dear 12:16... Tell that to Beasley and Walker
Yeah, good business decision, my ankle!
Listen to what Bob's employers at K St are saying about him. They literally loved the guy, his work ethic, and ability to energize the fan base and sell out the arena. UC should have hired Huggs for one year and let him rebuild the program here. He is leaving K St in much better shape than he found it, and it is light years ahead of the foundering program at UC.
Huggs turned down WVU 5 years ago when that program was in bad bad shape. Let's not rewrite history and pretend like he was making a big sacrifice statying at UC. As far as loyalty goes, ask John Loyer or Steve Moeller just how loyal Huggie Bear is.
I can see where it's a good business decision if UC is concerned about their national reputation and not just local, which I think is the case. If you're just a local high school, fine, but when you're on the national scene and represented so negatively, things happen to improve it. They obviously were willing to sacrifice short term pain for long term gain, which the verdict is obviously still out on.
Anyway, the folks at KSU didn't love Huggins, they loved what he can do for them. Period. And quite frankly, it's the same for WVU. If they didn't believe he could win they certainly would NOT be welcoming the home boy back to Morgantown.
I completely agree with you, Paul, and it blows my mind how these people to this day defend Huggins as if he was Phog Allen or Dean Smith (which he is not). The UC program was in shambles before the mess with Zimpher, and Huggins and these blind followers are still to this day living off of '92. Give it up! All he'll do at West Virginia is win 20-25 games, and lose in the first or second round of the NCAA's. Let's worry about a current coach (Sean Miller at X) and their program. What they have done there has converted a former diehard Bearcat fan and alumni into a X fan. Forget the Has-Been Huggins.
I agree with you too Doc. From what I've heard from insiders at UC, getting rid of Huggins made complete sense. I can understand why people are so upset, but try to realize, like it or not, there are two sides to every story. I think Huggins has shown his true colors with this move. In a way I can see moving back home, but what about the kids he recruited? (Never mind KSU that gave him a chance when no one else would.) Don't these kids deserve some consideration too? This move just doesn't sit right with me.
Sounds like WV has some class and they even had the governor show up, unlike some of the posters on this blog.
You sound like a bunch of book burning ingrates when you ignore all the good Huggins did for the program.
Paul, you gotta be kidding me. Walker and Beasley will bolt for the NBA the moment the money looks to be there. They wouldn't stay for 4 years to help out Hugs graduation rate if the pro scouts say they are lottery picks. What's the difference here ? He left the program in good shape, so K-state shouldn't complain, and the players will get to the pros if they are good enough. They all use each other - so don't feel sorry for any of the participants. They should all take a lesson from NCH's state title run - players and coaches come and go - TEAMS - win championships. Coaches have an influence but if you look at past champions - different coaches and different styles of coaching can win....but you always have to work as a team.
Paul--this situation is like a Rorschach test--your are going to see in it what ever you think boosts your opinion of Bob Huggins:
For those that hate him--they will see this as a tribute to his disloyalty and ascribe it as a character flaw worthy of ridicule. They will say he abandoned those kids and the program and that no other coach would act this way--despite the fact that successful coaches move around rapidly these days--just ask Thad Matta (who was contacted for the UK job by the way).
For those who like him--they will see that he passed up coaching the number 1 recruiting class in the nation next year for his last chance to go home. They will also see this as a litmus test for his loyalty to the fans of UC basketball (as this opportunity presented itself before and he passed on it at the time because he liked--and still does like--his supporters in Cincinnati).
One thing is for sure--those that hate Bob will ALWAYS hate Bob, and those that thought he brought a lot of excitement and victories to a long-dead program will ALWAYS like him.
Paul--in my opinion, you will ALWAYS hate Bob....
Just Sayin'!
Just remember Paul! For every story about UC for the next 5 years, you better lead off with that GPA! Because there won't be many victories to write about!
UC--where sports is just a hobby!
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